Pre-match: Fire v. New York's not quite finest (NYCFCABCETC), 7.13 Soldier Field Apple TV thingy

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Jul 13, 2024.

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All right, what happens tonight?

  1. Fire win BIG(ly)

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  2. Fire squeak out a win

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  3. Fire Draw

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  4. Fire Draw a match we should win

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Fire lose, again (still?)

    4 vote(s)
    40.0%
  6. Something Stoopid HAPPENS

    7 vote(s)
    70.0%
  7. Many Stupids Happen

    7 vote(s)
    70.0%
  8. Malört

    7 vote(s)
    70.0%
  9. Rubber Dick

    7 vote(s)
    70.0%
  10. Giant Frank "fat frank" Lampard shaped Rubber Dick

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  11. Oh, why bother? We aren't going to win MLS Cup this season!

    5 vote(s)
    50.0%
  12. We won't EVEN win the World Cup!

    4 vote(s)
    40.0%
  13. Go England!

    1 vote(s)
    10.0%
  14. Go Spain!

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  15. Go Messitina!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Go Colombia!

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  17. Screw those "fake" tournaments, we are on the cusp of the LEAGUES CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    3 vote(s)
    30.0%
  18. Frank Klopas Out! (come on, this team is way better than 13th in the East)

    1 vote(s)
    10.0%
  19. Frank Klopas In...for the USMNT

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
  20. (with) Klopp in...for the FIRE!

    2 vote(s)
    20.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
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  2. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did not see any 7s out there tonight, one or two 6s maybe. Lots of 3s.
     
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  3. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Acosta is good for a professional foul just about every game. I was surprised that he and Pineda actually finished the match. They both could have gotten a second yellow. Don't really think I need to see either Acosta or Gimenez anymore. Despite the possibilities going forward, together they are a liability on defense and hang out the CBs to dry.

    I hope that Rafa's injury is not too serious and Salquist is actually ready to come back. At this rate we may have Souquet and Arigoni or Gimenez at CB in the near future.

    Please, Frank, bring back the 3-5-2 and get MHS up top with Cuypers. If MHS has to play on the wing, then get either Mueller or Koutsias to pair up with Cuypers.
     
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I guess a clean sheet warrants a 7.
    But Brady only faced one shot on goal.

    Other than that, yep.
     
  5. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I’m not sure their methodology works, but a 7 appears to be very average.
     
  6. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
  7. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    its too bad that it took a potential move for Gaston to wake up and play well but his skill is way above Acosta

    seems to be a motivation problem though and I hope he moves on

    we desperately need a good player in the center of the field though
     
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  8. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure it does not work. 5 should be average MLS performance. Not many players were MLS average last night.
    Small ratings spread between best and worst player another problem.
    Or should all players should be given a participation medal and orange slices and a rating of 7.
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Was it "real" lawn darts (Jarts!)
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    With the metal spikes, or the pathetic new "poof" version?
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    We used to have a block party over the 4th of July every year growing up and Jarts were being played.

    One year, a neighbor walked through the game and was impaled with a Jart. He was carted off to the hospital.

    Another year, I tripped on a sleeping bag and sliced up my forehead on a fan grate. I ended up in the emergency room.

    An even earlier time (maybe I was 4 or 5), i hit my head on a car bumper and SHOULD have ended up in the hospital. There was so much blood as I thought it would be a good idea to wipe my blood soaked hands on the shutters of the neighbor's house (where I hit my head).

    Another year, we all had to run and hide (including my father), when the police raided the party for lighting fireworks in the street. We hid in the greenhouse attached to my house.

    It just occurred to me how f*cking dangerous those picnics were.
     
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  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  11. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hit your head hard on a car bumper. Hmmmm… That explains a lot of things
     
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  12. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently players receive a 5 for being alive.
     
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  13. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh, it does!
    It does!
     
  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    And NOT scoring more than one Own Goal.
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Mighty Tom Barlow is, technically, alive, so that explains it.
     
  16. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Grades in school have long been ‘inflated’ and bias us towards this…a C is now :eek:

    Despite critique/view of the metric, when everyone is rated via the same stats the results provide direct comparison between the players.

    Acosta being the lowest in this game ‘checks out’…again
     
  17. They're all getting paychecks, unfortunately.
     
  18. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not saying stats and player ratings are completely worthless, just that they are not determinative and have weaknesses. Extremely difficult task for statisticians.
    Two CBs could complete 258 consecutive passes between themselves in a match and generate some “splenderific” stats but accomplish nothing.
     
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  19. That means we all earn a 5 just for showing up.

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  20. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I prefer Fotmob over Sofa score for ratings
     
  21. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Fotmob is a little less forthcoming about it's measure...
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    It appears just as 'compressed'...
    upload_2024-7-14_14-41-47.png upload_2024-7-14_14-43-17.png
     
  22. dlm_Fire

    dlm_Fire Member+

    Aug 16, 2002
    Chicago
    Isn't it hilarious how folks that work hard to not get it will point directly at the thing that doesn't say what they think it does?
     
  23. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I’ve always thought player ratings were kinda dumb because it was always just some blogger giving their opinion that was probably massively skewed by a great or terrible play. I appreciate trying to standardize them in some way but I don’t think they’re “there” yet.
     
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  24. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    There’s always room for improvement…and there is always going to be nuance that is not represented.

    Gotta start somewhere and I’d argue it is better than nothing measured.
     
  25. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I would love for Barlow to make me eat the dancing banana meme but once a guy gets saddled with that it's just...not...good. Torres and whomever it was before that?
     
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