Fire salary numbers

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by alf, Jul 11, 2005.

  1. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Top 10 Salaries in MLS.
    Player Team Base Salary Overall
    Landon Donovan Los Angeles 900,000 900,000
    Eddie Johnson FC Dallas 875,000 875,000
    Freddy Adu D.C. 300,000 550,000
    Ramon Ramirez Chivas USA 425,000 500,000
    Josh Wolff Kansas City 350,000 420,357
    Clint Mathis Salt Lake City 270,000 410,000
    Eddie Pope Salt Lake City 314,782 378,948
    Tony Sanneh Chicago 285,000 365,000
    Chris Armas Chicago 250,000 325,000

    Jovan Kirovski Los Angeles 175,000 290,000

    Other Fire Salary Numbers:
    Andy Herron ($102,000)

    Note: Ante Razov is on a 210,000 base.

    I'd expect more to be leaked soon.
     
  2. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    Just curious. How do they work around the salary cap when one player is making 900,000? And what happened to the old 'max salary'?
    I'm not looking for peoples theories, I'm wondering if somebody actually knows something. Thanks.
     
  3. dlm_Fire

    dlm_Fire Member

    Aug 16, 2002
    Chicago

    From what I understand (given other comments on this topic both here and on MLSNet), they work around it with a nudge and a wink and a gentleman's agreement roughly akin to "Yah, he makes 900k, but only 350k counts against the salary cap"

    Nobody actually knows anything about how this works, IMO, even the people who are supposed to.
     
  4. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    That's my understanding as well. But then shouldn't the base be 350K but the Overall be whatever it is. (like in Adu or Wolfs case). It seems strange that someon can have a 'base' salary that high.
     
  5. BillQ

    BillQ New Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago, IL
    Sounds a lot like how the NBA used to run its salary cap back in the '80s and '90s.
     
  6. feuerfex

    feuerfex Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Sounds like a good question for Peter.
     
  7. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    the current max counts against the cap (280k?)... anything over that doesn't do anything to our team salary cap number
     
  8. bing1985

    bing1985 Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Near West ChiSuburbs
    So, in reality, not so much a "cap" as a "not fvcking anything like a cap"

    Most overpaid on that list (IMHO) in terms of actual talent contribution to their squad...

    Freddy Adu D.C. 300,000 550,000
    Ramon Ramirez Chivas USA 425,000 500,000
    Eddie Pope Salt Lake City 314,782 378,948
    Jovan Kirovski Los Angeles 175,000 290,000

    Freddy at least brings box-office. Eddy Pope was worth that money once upon a time. The other two are inexplicable.
     
  9. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    people have been overpaid in terms of max salary since the inception of mls

    my question is whether or not the bonus also effects the cap... as when i see armas and sanneh... they are below the max, but with their bonuses... they are above the cap... so does only their base count or are they effecting as at max because of their bonuses???

    i believe the bonuses count against the cap... but i always forget and can never remember anything specific on it
     
  10. Greddy

    Greddy Member

    Jun 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if you're going to use that argument, I must contend that Ramon was also worth that much once apon a time. RSL renegotiated Pope's contract when he went to Utah, so there's really no excuse for them either.
     
  11. feuerfex

    feuerfex Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Brought - past tense. The DC United road attendance this year is only better than two other teams. That is, there are nine teams who draw better on the road than DC United this year.

    Did you not notice the abysmal attendance at SF when DC visited last month? It only exceeded the season low by 88 people. The "Freddy bump" is no longer with us.
     
  12. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because it's Los Angeles
     
  13. Iceblink

    Iceblink Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That's ridiculous.
     
  14. leftwing

    leftwing Member

    Dec 9, 1999
    Lake Bluff, Il
    I agree. The guy doesn't put a sinlgle butt in a seat. UNLESS--The league paid that as an investment. In other words, they figured if they paid him a high salary they could hold onto him awhile longer they would make it all back as his transfer fee increased. If that is the case, someone in management was very savvy (thus, I doubt that's the case).
     
  15. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Whats ridiculous is Tony Sanneh is in the Top 10 in the league. He hardly deserves Top 10 on the Fire.

    Here's a fabulous endorsment from Ives Galarcep of Soccernet:
     
  16. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    From what I've read and understand, it goes something like this:

    If you're paid $500,000, only the portion of that up to the salary cap number counts against the cap. So, if the cap is $385,000 and you make $500,000, $115,000 doesn't count against the team's cap. Yes, it's retarded. But it allows the league to attract great talent like Hernandez and Matteus while not putting some teams over the team cap limit with that one player.
     
  17. Greddy

    Greddy Member

    Jun 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everything Garber (or some other MLS suit- I never really pay attention) has been saying recently has pointed to the fact that there is no longer a salary cap. There is more of a salary structure that teams work from, but aren't tightly bound.

    It's complete bullshit for teams like us, as we probably would have been able to acquire Hat-Ricky Van den Bergh last year, but hopefully we'll be able to take advantage of it in the future.

    He F'n wanted to come here!
     
  18. ciuperci

    ciuperci New Member

    May 10, 2004
    I read on another forum from a guy that lives in Holland that his club didn't want to let him go join the Fire. But we're already doing great at forward so don't you think it would've been wasted $ just like Reiter is? I think it's kinda sad that we've gotta have Herron and Barrett warm the bench when they're such talented strikers.
     
  19. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    CHI Sanneh Tony D-M $285,000.00 $365,000.33
    CHI Armas Chris M $250,000.00 $325,000.00
    CHI Reiter Lubos GK $170,100.00 $188,015.00
    CHI Caballero Samuel D $144,000.00 $162,750.00
    CHI Marsch Jesse M $105,105.00 $106,650.00
    CHI Curtin Jim D $105,000.00 $105,000.00
    CHI Guerrero Ivan D-M $100,000.00 $127,500.00
    CHI Thornton Zach GK $100,000.00 $100,000.00
    CHI Brown C.J. D $96,500.00 $96,500.00
    CHI Mapp Justine M $55,000.00 $61,000.00
    CHI *Gray Kelly M-D $42,289.00 $47,789.00*
    CHI Jaqua Nate F $40,950.00 $43,450.00
    CHI Pause Logan M $37,223.00 $39,723.00
    CHI Capano Craig M $31,256.00 $33,756.00
    CHI Barrett Chad F $30,000.00 $37,500.00
    CHI Correa Thiago M $30,000.00 $30,000.00
    CHI John William M-F $30,000.00 $37,500.00
    CHI Stewart Jack D $30,000.00 $37,500.00
    CHI Buete Scott M $28,000.00 $28,000.00
    CHI Griffin Leonard D $16,500.00 $16,500.00
    CHI Pickens Matt GK $16,500.00 $16,500.00
    CHI Rolfe Chris F $16,500.00 $16,500.00
    CHI Johnson Will F $11,700.00 $11,700.00
    CHI Mahoney David GK $11,700.00 $11,700.00
    CHI Segares Gonzalo D $11,700.00 $11,700.00
     
  20. the Next Level

    Mar 18, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    I almost fell off my chair laughing when I saw this. In fact I am still laughing right now.

    Needless to say, he will get at least a livable wage next year.
     
  21. Tobin

    Tobin Member

    Mar 31, 2004
    Chicago
    I am really lazy...Where did you find the team breakdown and does anyone else agree that collection plates should be passed around during Fire games to support Segares and Rolfe?

     
  22. UDPride

    UDPride Member

    Jun 13, 2005
    Why not ditch Reiter, and split his salary with Rolfe and Segares. Seems fair.
     
  23. theburden

    theburden Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    MDSC head brewer
    Don't forget, Pickets got bumped up to the Senior team and Sega got a senior Dev spot. They should both be making more money than what those numbers say.
     
  24. SparkeyG

    SparkeyG Member

    Feb 25, 2002
    Mokena, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When did Reiter become a 'keeper? :cool:
     
  25. theburden

    theburden Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    MDSC head brewer
    and is Justine Mapp's sister?
     

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