Fire Pochettino Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by wixson7, Aug 14, 2024.

  1. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...unless they're looking for a small tax write-off. $5 million to a billionaire is a rounding error.
     
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  2. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not many posters who actually watch soccer around here so yes I am stirring the pot a bit. ;)

    Asked on YA Flavors who actually saw Tessmann's last match where he got a FotMob 4.6 and ... crickets. We see tons of posters talk about how well Tessmann is playing for Lyon yet it turns out nobody is actually watching his play.
     
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  3. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    I didn't realize that I owe thanks to Griffin for both the Pochettino hire *and* being able to see that Basquiat in the Chicago art museum. It's an amazing piece, but apparently like Poch, not universally admired.
     
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  4. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    How does reynolds look in the belgian league?
     
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  5. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The last full match i saw was a couple of months ago. He looked good to me but only Poch matters. Matches and replays are available on DAZN if you want to check him out.

    Why do you ask?
     
  6. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    I saw you mention somewhere Reynolds as Freeman before freeman and someone else maybe you felt poch should be tracking. I definitely dont have time to watch belgian league let alone many others so was curious if you felt strongly about that as a miss of some kind.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Poch uses fotmob. :confused:
     
  9. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, this is a hilarious reality here. People will express very strong opinions about players playing at their clubs, and complain about how stupid Poch is for not calling them, or playing them enough, or whatever. But they don't even watch the player at their club. Like, at all. It's especially egregious when they're talking about players that HAVEN'T been called up for USMNT duty in years--which means they haven't seen the player AT ALL, in any context, and they STILL think Poch is an idiot because "X is playing well in Germany/Belgium/name a country in Europe".
     
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  10. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I hope Trapp is the surprise inclusion for the World Cup. :ROFLMAO:
     
  11. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    26’s Chad Deering.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    There's a bizarre assumption that if a player isn't being called up, then he isn't being scouted.

    All one has to do is read the existing information in the public sphere regarding the Talent ID and analytics departments at the USSF to know that their data science tools are pretty sophisticated. That's even with like.....................down to the earliest youth national team levels.

    And its like people think there's no way for the USSF scouts and staff to view Bryan Reynolds. Hello? Do they live in caves in Belgium? They don't record the games? There's no way for Pochettino and staff to get footage of Bryan Reynolds without being in the stands for gameday?

    The truth might be more damning. I don't know why its so hard for people to believe that the scouts and USMNT staff have seen Bryan Reynolds, Marlon Fossey, etc. and have decided Freeman and MLS options are superior. Is that so hard to believe? Really? Reynolds and Fossey are on bottom half teams in Belgium. They don't play for Real Madrid.

    Do people think the USMNT staff doesn't know Kristoffer Lund exists? Pochettino has literally called up Kristoffer Lund. Why does he prefer Arfsten and Tolkin for this camp? Beats me. But they know Kristoffer Lund exists. A reporter should ask him.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fotmob currently rates Reynolds as the 29th best fullback in the Belgian First Division, so he should walk into the USMNT.
     
  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yes, but I don't know that Griffin intended to fund the coach of the US for years. Maybe ... maybe not.

    Of course he can afford it, but he didn't do it until this situation, and he could afford it a while ago. Donors like a say in how their money is spent in most cases.
     
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  16. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No I don't feel strongly that Fossey, Reynolds, Wiley, DeJuan Jones are big misses. I think those players are around the same level as Arfsten and Freeman and should get similar opportunities.

    I think Poch knows this; He talked about how Freeman does not get the opportunity to play if Dest was in the Gold Cup camp.

    IMO Poch is a good evaluator of player talent, he is not making the kinds of egregious evaluation errors that Berhalter did.
     
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  17. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s one of those things where it’s probably easier to find someone to pay the salary the bigger the name. For Pep or Klopp for instance (not saying they’d consider the job), I bet they’d have an easy time finding the funds. Whereas for a less big name foreign manager might be more tricky.
     
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  18. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yep.

    People largely do this for the status and rep. It's massively easier to fundraise for capital projects that you can slap a name on than for operating expenses, etc.
     
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  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you find it weird that THE iconic German clubs runs its practices in English? I sure did.

    Is Kompany from the Walloon part of a Belgium or the Flemish part? Because IIRC Flemish is like Dutch which is like German, so you’d think Kompany could adapt.
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So long as the plan is to play 3 ATB, I’m more than content with Arfsten as Robinson’s presumptive backup, and maybe starter (depending on Jedi’s health). The other day I made the distinction between MLS good and MLS great, and the last half of this season, Arfsten has been MLS great. I wish we had a Crew fan or three here to give us a more full scouting report, but lately, Arfsten routinely beats his man 1v1. Routinely. He’s MLS unplayable, which to me means, he’s probably in the squad; if a player isn’t merely MLS good but he’s MLS great, he’s absolutely got to at least be in the pool.

    All else being equal, the smart move for Poch probably is to take Jedi as the starter, but bring both Arfsten and a better defender, probably Lund or Tolkin. That way he’s got options if Robinson gets injured, or card accumulation. If it’s a 26 man roster, that’s a no brainer.

    Freeman just got named to MLS Best XI. My recollection of the Reynolds sale was a) it was based solely on potential, which obviously hasn’t panned out and b) the consensus here was surprise.

    We’ve played Freeman with the Nats and he’s passed the eye test. I’d be shocked if any player not in a top 5 league or on an elite club in a league like Belgium, is better than him.

    In part that’s because my take on international play is, the tactics aren’t as refined, so a superior athlete is more valuable. He can better exploit the more-common tactical gaps. Freeman’s athleticism is top drawer.
     
  21. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most German clubs will conduct training sessions in German but English is considered the bridge language so depends on the manager.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So…FC Hollywood is one thing, but yo yo clubs are basically German through and through, is what I’m hearing.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    English is the lingua franca in the BL.
     
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. FatRon09

    FatRon09 Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Sep 14, 2023
    Look at the kit logo. It's Umbro. I think this is a couple of years old at Burnley...
     
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