Everyone complains about their NT manager unless they actually win something. Americans are just catching up with the rest of the world. The novelty about US fans is the conspiracy theories.
1. How much connection do Matarazzo and Hurzeler feel toward America? We are all assuming, rightfully I think, that an “American” coach of high status might take the job because of patriotism, but I think it’s fair to ask if Fabian really feels anything extra about America. 2. I think Nancy is the best prospect, player or coach, in the league. However. What he’s great at as a coach isn’t want you want from a national team coach. In the latter, you don’t care about developing players because that’s what club teams do. And I would be very worried how the Crew’s fairly sophisticated system, and Nancy’s ability to create a team full of players who can patch into different roles, fits international soccer.
My opinion is, fans are generally pretty smart about identifying what’s wrong with their team. Where fans are very stupid is that they think the solutions are obvious, and also easy to implement. That’s where the stupid comes in.
Matarazzo was born here, raised here, grew up here, went to college in the US, etc. Plus his family still lives here and was under serious consideration when Pochettino was hired. I don’t think there’s any question he’d be open. Hurzeler speaks fondly on his time playing for the youth teams and what not but less is known on that front. And I don’t think he’d leave an EPL job for the gig. In the end he’s the best coach in the league and I think you count on his ability to figure it out over a cycle. It’s an adjustment for basically any club coach who hasn’t coached internationally anyways.
England have a German manager, German!, and there have been very few complaints over his nationality. A good coach doesn't have be a patriot, they just have to win games.
I mean big soccer makes this super obvious. The problems on the field are generally agreed on with the causes/solutions often nonsequitors.
I agree that "we" can do that but there's a certain group of people now who now only criticize everything to build themselves up and soccer has some of them too. They usually jump from team to team but are usually a year or two behind because except for maybe Bayern or Real / Barcelona teams that win aren't usually the one that did it the last year. Maybe they win few but think of the kids jumping off the manCity bandwagon now. They're probably switching to Arsenal. Who will also not do this for long. "We" aren't like that or we wouldn't support the US for years. "We" may be smart about id'ing problems and even solutions but even if the team isn't the best we stick with them even knowing they probably won't win a WC in our lifetime.
It is easier however to get a manager to coach their own country. Whereas coaches from other countries are generally going to be less interested in the job (though some will). There’s also just the adjustment of coming from a different soccer culture, not being familiar with the game in the US, etc (something someone like Tuchel wouldn’t need to worry about having coached in the EPL).
They're interested if you pay them 6 million for a year and a half's worth of work. I think the highest paid manager in international soccer right now is Carlo Ancelloti, coaching Brazil.
Obviously the more you pay the more attractive the job is going to be. But the 6 million is still less than top tier coaches make at elite clubs.
A good article today on Foxsports regarding Poch. It details how he and his staff have interacted with over 50 different teams, both in the US and abroad, in an effort to see as many players as they can. He feels that this, along with the coaching, have helped the overall player pool advance. Answers all those "Does he even watch games" complaints: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/s...ettino-has-grown-usmnts-world-cup-talent-base
...............and of course, much of the money for his salary didn't come from the USSF. It came from donations from Ken Griffin, Scott Goodwin, etc. with success at the World Cup in mind. So, this may not be a salary the USSF can support after the World Cup. It would require these types of outside donations again. Ken Griffin could continue to bankroll it if he wants. His net worth is like........50 billion. One of the top 25 richest people in the world. [Ken Griffin was one of the bidders for Chelsea in 2022. Part of the bid from the Ricketts Family.] Its one of the reasons that Poch isn't doing so much work with younger prospects. He's not looking into the future. His tenure will end after the WC run. Then the USMNT coach goes back to a salary of like 1.5 million. [Same as Emma Hayes' salary.]
The downside of taking outside money is now US soccer can't "fire" Poch without Ken Griffin's approval. If they did, Ken and the other donors would probably never give money again. Not that any firing is likely at this point.
I'm suspicious of this article. They've been travelling over US to watch MLS games this fall. And only after November they'll be going to Europe? Kind of weird, they should have been in Europe since September. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/s...ettino-has-grown-usmnts-world-cup-talent-base
It was never likely. In the lovely tradition of this board, this thread started months before Poch even coached a game with us.
Based on their itinerary, it looks like they were keeping an eye on Seb Berhalter, Timothy Tillman, Freese, Roldan, Zwadaski, Arfsten, and Miles Robinson. Are these the players we should be spending time scouting at this point?!?! "Jesus Perez, the top lieutenant for the U.S. men's national team coach, was in Texas for FC Dallas vs. Vancouver Whitecaps and Austin FC vs. LAFC. Miguel D’Agostino saw games in New York and Seattle before wrapping up in Columbus, Ohio."
Sure. ...........................and as the article says: And later this month, it'll be off to Europe. D’Agostino, Perez and goalkeeper coach Toni Jimenez will spend the next several months crisscrossing the continent to keep track of the Americans’ overseas-based stars.
I don't know why anyone would think Ken Griffin would be more patient than US Soccer traditionally is.
Not that he's more patient, but maybe he would be pissed if he paid $5 million for a coach who lasted less than a year and was fired before contract was over. And that they might need him again to pay for the next coach. Purely hypothetical.
Who knows? When one reads Ken Griffin's wikipedia page..........................he does seem to throw away a lot of money on lost causes. $5 million to him is nothing. You take 5 million off of his net worth of 50 billion and what do we get? 49.995, 000, 000 Let's round that up. You take 5 million out of 50 billion and you still have 50 billion. [It is interesting to learn about the people bankrolling the USSF/USMNT.]
People who pay $6M for a coach tend to be much less patient when results don't come than US Soccer tends to be, is my point. Add in that Crocker knows Poch from Southampton, and the reality is that Griffin is far more likely to have wanted him gone than Crocker. A far bigger issue with this model is that it's going to be hard to replicate going forward. Crocker was able to fundraise for a big name with two years before a home World Cup. But that won't be the case after next summer, and if we fail to perform well at home, Griffin and every potential investor will be wondering about the return of any future donation.
Meh. There aren't many people on this Earth for whom $6 million is a drop in the bucket. Ken Griffin is one of them. The 21st richest person on Earth. Read his wikipedia page. He donates a lot of money to a lot of causes without expecting any kind of return. In 2020 he bought the painting below for $100 million. EEK! He paid $200 million for this thing. BOOF!
That bottom one looks a lot like my dad's stuff. Maybe I should send Mr Griffin some shots of his work.