FIRE PAYNE and KASPER

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Eric Shinn, Oct 26, 2008.

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  1. Murr

    Murr Member+

    Apr 14, 2007
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    DC United
    I forget, is this year four or five of the rebuilding project?

    Fire the F.O.
     
  2. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Who is still in favor of not firing them now?
     
  3. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    Actually - The rebuilding progressed very far - Sure we were the pits last year, but in the off-season AND DURING the season, they acquired a significantly better team than we ended with last year

    The performance on the field the last 2 months is a reflection on the players and injuries to Jakovic and Pontius, the improvement and rebuilding are undeniable

    except for the people whining here
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I'm sorry, but using injuries as an excuse for losing is a loser's mentality.

    LA, Seattle, Salt Lake, Dallas, KC, Colorado, Philadelphia, Houston - they all had injuries cost them key players for chunks of the season and they managed to overcome them enough to make the playoffs.

    I don't disagree that the team is better today, even with the injuries, than it was at this time a year ago. But using injuries as an excuse for failure rings hollow when so many other teams overcame their injuries to be much better than DC and, in some cases, flourish.
     
  5. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA

    so - you're agreeing with me that Payne and Kasper did a pretty good job in rebuilding this year
     
  6. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    In order to flourish in spite of injuries, a team needs depth. But when you're retooling a team that was as legendarily bad as DCU 2010, depth is a luxury. I would expect some depth next year.
     
  7. Morris20

    Morris20 Member

    Jul 4, 2000
    Upper 90 of nowhere
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Yeah - well, EVERYONE ELSE IMPROVED TOO. DCU is no closer to the pack today then they've been over the last several seasons - ironically, the team's relative health has somewhat masked the LACK of progress . . . EVERY team has injuries.

    There you go, improvement and rebuiliding ARE deniable. This team is a farce right now. And it's sad because they have some great pieces including a promising young coach. Whistling past the train wreck won't help.
     
  8. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Nope -- they did a better job of putting a better non-playoff qualifying team on the field this year. However, last year's team probably wouldn't have qualified for the NASL playoffs it was so bad. For comparison, Philly a second year expansion club is in the playoffs, DCU isn't. I would say building a team from scratch is harder than rebuilding a team with at least some serviceable pieces in place. (I won't even mention Seattle which has qualified for the playoffs every year of its existence and is a three-peat US Open Cup champion because that would be piling on.)
     
  9. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would argue that with today's roster acquisition and DP/GA rules, along with other roster/pay/contract changes, it is actually the opposite. You can't just slough off half your roster any more without serious problems - which are all good for the players and welcome, but make the job of the rebuilding FOs a bit harder than just starting from scratch.
     
  10. Sharkbait

    Sharkbait Member

    Aug 9, 2003
    Cary NC
    Club:
    DC United
    After a year-long hiatus this thread shouldn't be forgotten. Maybe a title change.

    After a 4-0 clowning by Houston, I

    bump.
     
  11. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kasper should be sacked this morning
     
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  12. NASI GORENG

    NASI GORENG Member+

    Feb 19, 2013
    fairfax
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    i'd be willing to give Olsen till seasons end if we cut Kasper this week
     
  13. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Screw that! Bring in Etcheverry!
     
  14. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Just make a Fire Kasper thread if you want to. No need to Necromance this thread.
     
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