Fire Caleb Porter pt. 2: The Cucho Era

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  1. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    From @hangthadj in the original thread: "Most all great coaches at least two thinks in common. They have been hired, and they will be fired" - Timo Lekoski. (Or maybe Fabio Capello, or possibly Larry Bowa.)

    I figured it is time to reboot the 3-year+ old and 3,000+ post thread now that we're moving into a new era of the club. We have 2 elite offensive players yet our offense is the slowest in the league. We won a championship a season-and-a-half ago, but also didn't qualify twice and are sitting below the line today.

    When will the Crew come to their senses and fire Caleb Porter and hire a better manager? That's for us to discuss.
     
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  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even Sir Alex got fired--once.
     
  3. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    We need a massive reprogramming of CoachBot, but the AI is resisting change. Time to pull the power supply.
     
  4. Crew Chuck35

    Crew Chuck35 Member+

    Apr 13, 2009
    Gahanna, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same power supply that just brought in CUCHO?
     
  5. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    This should be enough justification for firing. We need faster play, which is what the roster (nagbe aside) is built for. Porter said Cucho was his top choice. He needs to use his strengths.
     
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  6. Arthur_Maggot

    Arthur_Maggot Member

    Jun 12, 2019
    Could you make it more generic?

    "Fire the head coach part x"
     
  7. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Porter makes roster decisions?
     
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  8. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    I'm not optimistic that Porter will get the best from Cucho but CP isn't going to be fired any time soon. Maybe at the end of the season if we miss the playoffs. In the meantime let's see what he can do with an upgrade at striker.
     
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  9. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    "I can't believe @hardhead started a 'Fire Caleb Porter: The Cucho Era' thread before Cucho has even been coached by Porter. Does he even like the team? Why does he even mod here? - Sargent @stanger, probably.
     
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  10. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Apparently
     
  12. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    So does everyone think Porter is a bigger problem than Poor roster construction???
     
  13. Sagz

    Sagz Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Cbus
    Im not everyone but, I do. Good coaches can make weaknesses into strengths. Porter is not a good developer of talent. One measurement is his inability to turn assets into products that can be sold to higher leagues. That part is not dependent on win/loss record.....which also sucks for him.
     
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  14. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I recall correctly, most pundits picked the Crew to make the playoffs this season. In the Athletic's public poll (small sample size but I'd assume "more informed" fans), the Crew were picked to make the playoffs. This team has enough talent to be competitive in this league and make the playoffs. We are not playing up to our potential at this point.

    CB9K is holding this team back.
     
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  15. Crew Chuck35

    Crew Chuck35 Member+

    Apr 13, 2009
    Gahanna, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You said AI not willing to make change. who’s the AI? Bez? Haslam?
     
  16. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then 110% fire Porter right now. I’ve been blaming Bez for our poorly constructed roster, but apparently it’s Porter that has been making multiple shit signings.
     
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  17. Sagz

    Sagz Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Cbus
    Usually when you are doing basic AI/Machine learning you want to use more than 50 images of a striker to train the model....maybe thats why he thinks neck tats mean something :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AI?
     
  19. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    How much of it is shit signings and how much is a coach unable to get those signings to perform?
     
  20. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both.

    I forgot the massively bloated wages as well for some players.
     
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  21. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    When I look at the roster, I see a lot of solid and good pieces who are all underperforming. When nearly every player on the field is underperforming, it’s not the players. (The bloated salaries is another problem entirely)
     
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  22. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Wow. The media is really holding Porter's feet to the fire. Make the playoffs, they demand!!! Be one of 14 teams to make the playoffs!

    The wheels are already in motion. The local Crew media, to the extent that they even exist, has essentially served as a Fox News type propaganda arm of tghe Crew the team was "saved." Here, Arace, maybe the lone critical voice against Porter in recent months sets the bar laughably low for success, greasing the wheels for a Porter extension.

    Everything about this club, and the culture surrounding it is a joke.
     
  23. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think I've ever disagreed as vehemently with a post or opinion of yours as much as I do with the above.
     
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  24. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Take away the final sentence/paragraph. You really think that the likes of Meyers, Arace, et al are covering this team with a critical eye?
     
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