News: Final League Wide Attendance Numbers

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by MLSFan123, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As most know, this was a break out year for MLS attendance league wide. Here is a summary with data lifted from the main attendance thread on the MLS N&A board

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    MLS Attendance Report

    2011 Numbers, 18 Teams, 306 total games

    Average Attendance: 17,869
    Median Attendance: 17,639
    % of games > 20k: 28.1%
    % of games <10k: 5.6%


    Notes:

    * The average was the best ever
    * The median was the best ever and blew away the second best ever by 2,286. The median by itself was even better than the now second best average back in 1996
    * The <10k number was the best ever
    * The >20k number was the second best ever, trailing 2007 (Becks and Blanco's first year)


    To give a feel for those 2011 numbers above, compare them to where MLS was after the 2000 season

    Average Attendance: 13,756
    Median Attendance: 12,690
    % of games > 20k: 12.5%
    % of games <10k: 34.4%



    There is a decent chance that next season could match or even beat these 2011 numbers. Houston opening a new stadium, Portland expanding by 1500 seats, Montreal expansion expected to be very strong, full season in BC Place for Vancouver and a possibility of Seattle expanding their seating again.
     
  2. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't worry, the Revs will bring that number down.
     
  3. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or artificially hand out free tix in hopes that a few thousand of those that do make it, stop off at 5 guys and drop $50...!
     
  4. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    you think people are going to waste their time to watch this team for free? LOL
     
  5. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not people who love the game...I'm talking bout Suzy, Johnny and the kids out for a Saturday night watching the blue team play the green team..!! They're the only ones KSG cares about..

    They spend money they don't have..!
     
  6. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Yeah, but they already show up. all 7000 of them. where are they going to find another 6-7K? I'm pretty sure even college kids wouldn't waste their time even if your drove them and gave them free beer.
     
  7. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As the league continues to grow, the effect of one or two bad attendance teams is reduced.

    Every year there will be teams that have reduced attendance. It happens in every league in every sport.

    As you mentioned the Revs will very likely be one of those teams assuming they don't use a double header to goose the numbers.

    But even if the Revs drop 2k in attendance, I still think this years league average is sustainable given that the positives seem to slightly outweigh the negatives at this point.
     
  8. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a lot easier to pontificate when you don't care about the facts, right? How many home games had 'good' attendence? I don't think it really matters where you put that line, it's going to be more than you think
     
  9. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Maybe something was lost in what we were all assuming, and just joking about. I am referring to a suggested drop in attendance for next season, given that a lot of STH's are upset. I'm not sure what "facts" you are suggesting here. Everyone is throwing out posts based on conjecture.
     
  10. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh I know ... just pure frustration coming out at this point.
     
  11. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My apologies if you were referring to next year's numbers (reading back it seems pretty clear that you were). Mea Culpa

    But the fact does remain that even losing 500 STH's, it'll be unlikely to see a significant drop in attendence next year.
     
  12. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I know, I was made in jest anyways. hence the LOL

    Plus, everyone knows college kids would do anything for free beer. Even if that meant watching the Revs. :D
     
  13. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    College kids will come out in droves to watch soccer, if there's free beer. A fact anyone who's ever seen an AO 'tailgate' can attest to
     
  14. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great point, what is the FO waiting for!?? Sponsorship opportunity begging to be exploited!
    • Revolution branded beer pong tables, cups & ping pong balls
    • Revs home brewed beer
    • Revs flasks, steins, kegs, shot glasses, grills, chairs

    Make 'Rev pong' an official part of the game day experience and the college kids will be there.
     
  15. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd much rather watch a few drunk 19 year old girls try to play baggo for a price pack then watch some child fail at kicking a ball through a tarp
     
  16. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dan, is this true, or just speculation on the large crowds for the last couple of home games?

    I remember when attendace declined in the early Gillette years (when the team had its best years, ironically enough) the Revs pointing out these were all paid attendees, and that they don't give out freebees. The implication was there that they once did in the early years, but that wasn't true at all. I recall several conversations with then-GM Brian O'Donovan who was adamantly against it--citing that it wasn't fair to people who paid for their tickets, especially STH.

    Yes, there were some tickets given as part of sponsorships, so you might be sitting next to a guy who drives a delivery truck for the company that supplies flour to Dunkin Donuts, but the ticket wasn't free, since DD paid for that as part of their sponsorship.

    Anyway, I know the stats are here somewhere, but aren't 3 of the 5 smallest crowds in the league this year from Gillette? I think the others were Columbus and Toronto (that one was in horrible weather) IIRC.
     
  17. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not sure who was lowest but it was not Toronto. Their lowest this year was 16,313 against DC earlier in the season.
     
  18. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, my mistake. I think it was our home game vs Toronto that was on the list, that's where it came from. You're right, even a bad crowd for them (no walk-up or non-ST sales) would be larger than our average.

    Anyway, I'll see if I can find that stat. It used to be posted in one of the attendance threads around here.
     
  19. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here you go...


    Worst 6 MLS Attendances for 2011. I'm adding one just because the #1 on the list was just a weird coincidence.
    Code:
    [B]Date       Home        Away        Atten       Weather[/B]
    Wed 6/15   Revs      TFC           6,680     75, Clear
    Sat 4/2    Revs      Portland      7,114     48, Cloudy
    Sat 5/7    Crew      Seattle       7,148     59, Cloudy
    Sat 4/16   Crew      Sporting      7,695     47, Rain
    Sat 4/9    Revs      RSL           7,970     50, Clear
    Wed 5/11   FCD       Toronto       8,145     64, Rain
    
    And I still remember after our first two, rkupp had said that around half of the teams in the league would wind up with a number like that. Yeah, not so much.
     
  20. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that list shows me one thing, it's that home fans do not like showing up to watch their team play Toronto
     
  21. Weber King

    Weber King Member

    Sep 28, 2001
    North Andover, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Without an asterik indicating the backstory, this looks friggen' hilarious.
     
  22. revsrock

    revsrock Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
    Boston Ma
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing happened that day at all, what are you talking about :)
     
  23. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    It's a fine line between creepiness and pedophilia.
     
  24. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm 22, I think I'm firmly established in the 'just generally creepy' side of that line
     
  25. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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