FIFA World Cup: Argentina v. Belgium (Quarterfinals) - July 5, 2014 [R]

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  1. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

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    Argentina vs Belgium

    Argentina [​IMG] Match 60 [​IMG] Belgium
    5 July 2014
    13:00 UTC−3 ( 9:00 AM PST / 12:00 PM EST)

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    Estádio Nacional Mané Garrincha, Brasília (69,349 Capacity)
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    Head-to-Head Statistics:

    - Matches Played: 4
    - 3 Argentina wins, 1 Belgium win, 0 draws
    - 10 goals for Argentina, 4 goals for Belgium

    Argentina and Belgium have met on two occasions in the past at the FIFA World Cup.

    The first time, on June 13, 1982 in front of a record crowd of 95,000 attendees in Camp Nou -the highest attendance of any game in the Spain '82 World Cup-, Belgium defeated Argentina with a 62nd min goal by Erwin Vandenbergh for a final scoreline of 1-0. Despite the loss, Argentina advanced from the group stage along with Belgium, although both teams would be eliminated in the second round.


    (Belgium goal at 2:17 mark of highlights)

    The second time around -4 years later- more was at stake, as Argentina and Belgium faced each other for none less than a spot in the final of the World Cup on June 25, 1986. Once again in front of a sell out crowd (114,500 fans packed the Estadio Azteca that evening), Argentina took on Belgium but this time managed to get a 2-0 win thanks to two goals by Diego Maradona (51', 63'). Argentina would proceed to the final and eventually lift the trophy, the second and last time it has occurred.



    Outside of the World Cup, the two teams haven't seen each other much. The only other two encounters that have taken place are a 6-3 victory for Argentina in the Quarterfinals of the 1928 Summer Olympics and a 2-0 Argentina victory in a 1984 friendly.

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    Arrival to Quarterfinals
    Argentina (1st in Group F) - 4 wins, 0 losses, 0 draws - 7 goals for, 3 against
    2-1 W v. Bosnia
    1-0 W v. Iran
    3-2 W v. Nigeria
    1-0 (ET) W v. Switzerland (R16)

    Top Scorer: Messi (4 goals)

    Belgium (1st in Group H) - 4 wins, 0 losses, 0 draws - 6 goals for, 2 against
    2-1 W v. Algeria
    1-0 W v. Russia
    1-0 W v. South Korea
    2-1 (ET) W v. USA (R16)

    Top Scorer: De Bruyne, Fellaini, Lukaku, Mertens, Origi, Vertonghen (1 goal each)

    Argentina and Belgium both arrive to quarterfinals under similar conditions: considered two of the more "exciting" teams participating in this World Cup, fans and neutrals alike have been disappointed by the level of play of the two to this point. Although both have won every game played, there still is a sense that neither side has truly delivered their full potential yet.

    Furthermore, both teams share many similarities statistically. Aside from both having 4 wins, the two share the same goal difference and one coincidence: both sides have relied on late goals more than once in the tournament. Messi saved Argentina with a dramatic late goal against Iran in the 91st minute, while Di Maria gave us the qualification to QFs with two minutes left of extra time vs. the Swiss.

    Belgium's case is perhaps a bit more extreme: in the four matches they've played so far, they haven't scored any goal before the 70th minute mark. In fact, excluding Fellaini's 70th minute goal v. Algeria, all their other group stage goals came in the last 12 minutes of the match.

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    Belgium Statistics

    2014 World Cup Qualification

    8 wins, 0 losses, 2 draws -- 18 goals for, 4 against



    2012 UEFA Euro Cup
    Failed to qualify (finished 3rd in Group A Euro Cup qualification, behind Germany and Turkey)

    FIFA Ranking (for whatever it's worth): 11th

    General World Cup Stats
    Total Number of Participations: 12
    Best Performance: 1986 - fourth place (eliminated by Argentina)

    Match Wins: 14
    Match Losses: 17
    Match Draws: 9
     
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  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Havent pass this stage in 1990...
     
  3. atomicbloke

    atomicbloke Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    We are the underdogs.
     
  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Offside goal?


    Diego at his very peak
     
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  5. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    we need to break this QF jinx
     
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  6. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So... what to do about...

    -Fede Fernández?
    -Gago?
    -Higuaín?
    -Rojo's replacement?
     
  7. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    1: i can see only demi in the place of FF
    2:i think biglia/perez in place of gago.
    3: I will say go for 4-4-2 with palacio and messi
    4: Basanta , no other way
     
  8. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    How about Campagnaro on the left instead of Basanta?
     
  9. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We tried basanta in that position in many matches , and hugo was tested for RB position.
    i think we have to add one more AM in to the plate and make sure offensive setup is getting good supply

    -------------------romero-----------------
    zaba-----garay---demi--------basanta-
    --------masch--biglia----------------
    -maxi------messi------dimaria---
    ----------palacio------------------
     
  10. Sandinista

    Sandinista Member+

    Apr 11, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    Racing Club de Avellaneda
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That's 4 substitutions from one game to another. Necessary perhaps, but unrealistic with Sabella.

    Basanta is 99% locked to replace Rojo, that's a given.
     
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  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Palacio in place of Higuain. He's the one that won the ball at the end and pass it to Messi.
     
  12. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Belgium coach Wilmots : "Argentina play very low. I don't know how they'll be able to deal with us.

    Wilmots: "Argentina play with 5 defender. I have everything in my head, don't worry.


    thank god for underestimating us :)
     
  13. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I believe Messi has 4 goals. 1 against Bosnia, 1 against Iran, and 2 against Nigeria. Minor detail anyway

    Lets go ARGENTINA
     
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  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Maradona's brace still spinning in their head after 28 years.
     
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  15. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My mistake! Nice catch..
     
  16. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Arguably Diegos best match ever
     
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  17. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yea, he hit the post and has some assists wasted by his teammate. Valdano heroic miss was unbelievable.
     
  18. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    One of those intangible things that can inflate or deflate ones stats making one player look better than another, on paper at least. I think I'll re-watch the game tonight
     
  19. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I dont know if you guys follow any of the players on social media but it seems like their bond is tighter than ever. They have eachother's backs
     
  20. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  21. Volrath

    Volrath Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    This quote was badly translated. He said that he wonders if Argentina will change their gameplan to deal with them.

    Wilmots isn't that arrogant :)

    This is a very special game for me living in Belgium and all. My mom's Argentine and my dad's Belgian :eek:
     
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  22. HollywoodHayat

    HollywoodHayat Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    I dont know wht he means by very low but keep talking like this its a good motivator for our players.
     
  23. HollywoodHayat

    HollywoodHayat Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    I would do this for the next match

    Zaba-Garay-Basanta-Campa

    We need speed against them and this is the best i can come up with
     
  24. bsas

    bsas Member

    May 27, 2004
    Switzerland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    On the other hand, when I see the space between their defenders at that time, I think Messi would have made a full meal with it...
     
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  25. El_tri321mex

    El_tri321mex Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    berkeley
    This will be Argentinas first real test . It will be a great game
     

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