FIFA World Cup '26: News & Analysis

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Group C definitely not the group of death now.

    Gretzky is embarrassing Canada with his pronunciation.
     
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  2. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    What is the reason no pot 4 team could join a group that would have had France, Senegal and Uzbekistan?
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    ^ This seems less likely now. Both got great (easy) draws.
     
  4. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    USA got such an easy group!
     
  5. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    That looked shady to me. There was no reason to move Uzbekidtan.
     
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  6. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Radio coverage in the UK happy that England are in a group kicking off late. Usually they want as much time between matches as possible, meaning a group that that starts on early. This time they reckon it is an advantage to have a bit more rest before the first game. Especially if players are involved in the Champions League Final. Not sure I agree. If you go deep in the tournament the matches will be squeezed into fewer days.
     
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  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Am thinking Group D (USA) is the weakest. All 3 hosts got good draws, but I think the US got the easiest UEFA playoff team, if no big surprises in those playoffs.
     
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  8. scooterzz

    scooterzz Member

    Mar 8, 2022
    I didn't think anyone could mispronounce Jordan, but he managed to do it...
     
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  9. scooterzz

    scooterzz Member

    Mar 8, 2022
    This seems shady, but I think it had to do with avoiding multiple members of a confederation (other than UEFA) appearing in a single group.
     
  10. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Belgium, Iran, Egypt, New Zealand

    Is very weak.
     
  11. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They had to create a group with 2 UEFA and 1 CAF from the first 3 pots to accommodate the SUR/BOL/IRQ playoff. At that point, putting Norway in Group I was the only remaining way to make that happen.
     
  12. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Amongst the worst 4 of every pot.
     
  13. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    USA also has the easiest path to the QF, having drawn Belgium as its likely R16 opponent if both win their groups (and R32 matches).
     
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  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    True, that might be the weakest now that you mention it. I don't know anything about the Egypt team though, other than they tend to underperform in WCs considering what they have accomplished in African Nations tournaments.
     
  15. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Egypt isn't very good right now.

    Canada could have a pretty tough group if Italy qualify.

    US group is easy compared to what it could have been.
     
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  16. Bouba Diop

    Bouba Diop Member

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Jul 14, 2025
    At this point there was one African team remaining (I think Algeria) and they could have fit in group with England and Croatia. Maybe the group with England and Croatia was the only remaining fit for Panama?
     
  17. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I'm still stuck on this one. :unsure:

    POT 3

    Norway
    Uzbekistan
    Panama

    Group I: France , Senegal , (?) , (?)

    Group K: Portugal , (?) , (?) , Colombia

    Group L: England , Croatia , (?) , (?)

    POT 4
    Jordan
    Cape Verde
    Ghana
    Curaçao
    Haiti
    New Zealand
    UEFA Path A winner
    UEFA Path B winner
    UEFA Path C winner
    UEFA Path D winner
    IC Path 1 winner (DR Congo / New Caledonia / Jamaica)
    IC Path 2 winner (Iraq / Bolivia / Suriname)

    Okay, I think I got it now. :unsure:
     
  18. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Agree. But a lot of that is because Canada aren't very good. If you look at it from Switzerland's POV, they should advance easily with or w/o the inclusion of Italy.
     
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  19. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    The question is whether or not you evaluate groups by how good their Pot 1 team is or by how weak their Pot 4 team is.

    The hosts are the weakest Pot 1 teams, but all ended up with strong Pot 4 teams from the UEFA playoffs.

    Canada got a minnow from Pot 3, but the strongest possible Pot 4 team, whereas the USA and Mexico did not get any minnows.
     
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  20. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Canada is a good team.

    No Switzerland should not advance easily. I actually favor Canada at home in that match.
     
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  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Algeria was picked before Uzbekistan. Algeria couldn't go in Group I because of Senegal. At that point there were no more CAF teams and one UEFA team in the pot, so the spot had to be reserved for Norway.
     
  22. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Two arab teams who always park the bus and Austria which will do the same probably, meh.
     
  23. Bouba Diop

    Bouba Diop Member

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Jul 14, 2025
    Yes, you are right. During the draw I was sure the England group was the only one for IC PO 2. I didn't have the group with France and Senegal in mind, so I was surprised when they put Algeria somewhere else.
     
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  24. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    From an England perspective the prospect of facing Mexico in Mexico City for the round of 16 is daunting. That requires both teams to win their group and progress. I reckon Mexico are favourites to win their group due to home advantage. Probably 60:40 likelihood they win it. For England winning the group is probably 50:50.

    I attended Mexico v Croatia in 2014 and wouldn't mind if I watched them play each other again on TV. Of course I haven't worked out the permutations for England if we finish 2nd and I probably wouldn't like it if I did. Working out all the options is a path to madness so I will stop now!
     
  25. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    No real GOD in the end, the way the draw worked out. All groups either have at least one real minnow, or are relatively balanced like Groups A and D.

    Soft draws for Mexico and USA. Canada probably marginally more difficult if it ends up being Italy from that playoff path (far from guaranteed), but still think I'd favor them to get at least 4 points in that group and advance considering the pot 2 and 3 opponents.
     
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