FIFA World Cup '26: News & Analysis

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Things get weird in CONMEBOL too. A move to 64 and adding another qualification spot for CONMEBOL gets to the point where it basically wrecks the format.

    There are possible changes to mitigate it, but I'm not sure they would be politically or logistically feasible.
     
  2. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    They would probably have to merge with CONCACAF.
     
  3. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    That's the large-scale solution. The small-scale one is to just switch Guyana and Suriname.

    Both strike me as very difficult politically, even the second due to Suriname starting to improve its national team enough to potentially be competitive with the bottom of CONMEBOL.
     
  4. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    I do wonder what FIFA makes of this first expanded WC field. For all the talk of "muh global representation", the big markets in China and Southeast Asia are still totally unrepresented. Instead we have 3 different Arab nations + 1 more potentially coming through the IC playoff. With the addition of usual suspects Iran, we've got up to 5 teams in this tournament potentially just from West Asia.

    I guess Qatar can at least offer big oil money TV deals, but I'm not sure Jordan or Cabo Verde or Curacao are exactly what FIFA had in mind in terms of "untapped markets" or whatever.
     
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  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I'm not sure, but it seems strange that CONMEBOL members would feel compelled to merge just because the WC qualifying becomes too easy. It doesn't become any more difficult or interesting by merging with CONCACAF. Since if they merge, instead of C'BOL getting ~8.5 spots, C'BOL-C'CAF would get ~17 spots. Qualifying would still be a joke; not just for the likes of Brasil and Argentina but for everyone until you reach Venezuela/Bolivia's level.
     
  6. Mr Globe

    Mr Globe Member

    Dec 21, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I read somewhere that FIFA will award their peace prize after the draw has finished. what’s the record for televisions around the world all being turned off at the same time?
     
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  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not sure. I only know the United States record for when the greatest number of TVs were thrown out of a window at the same time.

    1990 World Cup when the US pay-per-view coverage stopped right before the PK shootout began. (open)
     
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  8. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Not necessarily, if they used Swiss system and teams played one or two of, say, six qualifying games against similarly ranked teams (Colombia, Uruguay, USA, Mexico and Canada for example).
     
  9. ColUFan

    ColUFan Member

    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    They needed to give Kevin Hart stilts.
     
  10. Big J 0526

    Big J 0526 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Sep 8, 2010
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and of course right on cue is the trump dick riding
     
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  11. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    This is a sick joke.
     
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  12. guri

    guri Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    I can hear the noise of woke brains exploding around the world…kaBOOM!
    LOL
     
  13. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    No. Just real bombs exploding around the world.
     
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  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I don't see how that makes qualifying better, given that the current format has matchups like Brazil v Argentina, Brazil v Colombia, Uruguay v Argentina, Peru v Chile, etc. The issue is that there is not much riding on the games. Well, basically nothing riding on them for the above-average teams apart from bragging rights.
     
  15. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I am so damn happy that the US World Cup got to happen during a cheeto term. US soccer fans deserve this misery.
     
  16. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If you play only six games (Sep-Oct and Nov) you increase the jeopardy significantly.
     
  17. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Scaloni straight into Spanish; Roberto Carlos straight into Portuguese. :thumbsup:
     
  18. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No you see they called it the INAUGURAL FIFA Peace Prize. It's definitely going to be handed out again.

    Probably to some Saudi Prince.
     
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  19. ColUFan

    ColUFan Member

    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    And Gianni will backdate one for Putin.
     
  20. rabble-rabble

    rabble-rabble Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    West Jordan, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Get on with it already!
     
  21. Mr Globe

    Mr Globe Member

    Dec 21, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    66 minutes in and I still haven’t turned the volume on
     
  22. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Bragging rights mean something and at least there are matches against top quality opposition. Qualification is going to be easy for the best nations with 48 or 64 qualifiers. CONMEBOL's system is preferable to the situation in UEFA where England won all 8 of their matches without conceding. Spain were already qualified before they dropped any points. Norway won all 8 of their matches. Europe can't qualify so many teams and have meaningful fixtures. Same for CONMEBOL but at least the matches matter in their own right and some of the opposition will be very good.
     
  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not "significantly". Think about it - if there are 6 games using a Swiss model containing all 40-45 members in C'CAF and C'BOL, and about 17 qualifying directly to the WC that means you'd only need 10-11 points to make it. And note, pot 1 teams will still have 2 very easy matches (think Aruba, Bermuda, etc) and 2 against pretty weak sides (think El Salvador, Jamaica).

    Not much chance of them finishing below 10 points. Heck, even Bolivia would be a good bet to get 9 points just from those 4 matches, before even talking about their other 2 matches against top sides.

    Though I would like to see the Swiss model implemented more.
     
  24. Steve Page

    Steve Page Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    No doubt there will be another. Once you have invented a mechanism for patronage you might as well keep using it. At least you will If you have a corrupt mindset.
     

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