FIFA World Cup '26: News & Analysis

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I think not. It is not a FIFA tiebreaker.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sucks there”s no clear rule.
     
  3. Viking lord

    Viking lord Member

    Uruguay
    Aug 4, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    DR Congo will be seaded above Iraq.

    DR Congo will end up with 1442.9 points after this FIFA Window and Iraq will only make it to 1439.6 points if they beat UAE in the other game

    Iraq needed to win both games to secure being seeded in the play-off (they will still be seeded unless Panama or Costa Rica ends up in the play-off)
     
  4. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Not so sure. DR Congo could finish before Iraq in the FIFA rankings.

    Also, with that loss, Italy will not be a pot 1 seed.
     
  5. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. Viking lord

    Viking lord Member

    Uruguay
    Aug 4, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    DR Congo will 100% finish above Iraq.

    Apparently Guatemala will play their backups against Suriname now that they are eliminated so I think there is a high chance that Panama will end up in the play-offs.

    The play-offs will look like this imo:
    • Panama and DR Congo as seeded teams
    • Iraq, Bolivia, New Caledonia and one of Jamaica / Curaçao as non-seeded teams.
    Both Costa rica and Honduras losing a few days ago ensured that no team from group C will end in the play-offs imo
     
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  7. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nigeria eliminated by DR Congo in penalties. DR Congo to the IC PO's.

    I. Pot 1
    1. United States, Hosts, 16th
    2. Mexico, Hosts, 14th
    3. Canada, Hosts, 28th
    4. Spain, almost certainly qualified, 1st
    5. Argentina, Qualified, 2nd
    6. France, Qualified, 3rd
    7. Engalnd, Qualified, 4th
    8. Porrugal, Qualified, 5th
    9. Netherlands, functionally qualified, 6th
    10. Brazil, Qualified, 7th
    11. Belgium, almost certainly qualified, 8th
    12. Italy, functionally POs #1, 9th

    Those in the know say Germany & Croatia can pass Italy with wins.

    II. Pot 2:
    1. Germany, likely qualify/ in PO, 10th
    2. Croatia, Qualified, 11th
    3. Morocco, Qualified, 12th
    4. Colombia, Qualified, 13th
    5. Uruguay, Qualified, 15th
    6. Switzerland, likely qualify/in PO, 17th
    7. Senegal, Qualified, 18th
    8. Japan, Qualified, 19th
    9. Denmark, likely qualify/in PO, 20th
    10. Iran, Qualified, 21st
    11. South Korea, Qualified, 22nd
    12. Ecuador, Qualified, 23rd

    Those in the know say Austria can pass Ecuador & South Korea with a win, unsure with a draw.

    Pot 3
    1. Austria, likely qualify/in PO, 24th
    2. Australia, Qualified, 25th
    3. Turkey, likely POs #2/qualify, 26th
    4. Ukraine, In PO, PO#3, 27th
    5. Norway, functionally qualified/PO, 29th
    6. Panama, likely INT PO#1/qualify, 31st
    7. Egypt, Qualified, 32nd
    8. Poland, functionally PO#4 33rd
    9. Algeria, Qualified, 35th
    10. Paraguay, Qualified, 39th
    11. Ivory Coast, Qualified, 42nd
    12. Tunisia, Qualified, 43rd

    Pot 4
    1. Qatar, Qualified, 52nd
    2. Uzbekistan, Qualified, 55th
    3. Iraq, home leg 2 AFC 1-1, 57th
    4. Saudi Arabia, Qualified, 58th
    5. South Africa, Qualified, 59th
    6. Honduras, leading, 64th
    7. Jordan, Qualified, 66th
    8. Cape Verde, Qualified, 71st
    9. Ghana, Qualified, 73rd
    10. Curacao, leading, 82nd
    11. New Zealand, Qualified, 85th
    12. Suriname, leading, 126th

    Possible IC PO placeholders. Look like all Pot 4 save for Panama and maybe Costa Rica.

    Panama, in PO atm, 31st, 2nd Group A
    Costa Rica, out atm, 45th, 3rd Group C
    Iraq, alive, 57th, tied 1-1 leg 2 at home
    DR Congo, IN PO, 60th
    Honduras, in WC atm, 64th, 1st Group C
    UAE, alive, 67th, tied 1-1 leg 2 away,
    Jamaica, in PO atm, 68th 2nd Group B
    Bolivia, in PO, 76th
    Curacao, atm in WC, 82nd, 1st Group B
    New Zealand, in PO, 85th
    Haiti, out atm, 88th, 2nd Group C
    Suriname, in WC atm, 126th, 1st Group A

    Again, I am sure I messed something up.

    Someone who catches it, please correct.
     
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  8. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Norway has qualified, Italy going to the playoffs.
     
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  9. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #5009 Itiofele, Nov 16, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2025
    I was answering to Jay510, who said Iraq and Panama, not to you.

    I finished my calculations and yes, you are correct: DR Congo has already surpassed Iraq.

    Assuming Germany and Croatia both win or draw their respective matches, Italy will be ranked 12.

    Yesterday I was listening to a Central American podcast, and the Guatemalan journalist said that the rumour is false.
     
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  10. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #5010 Itiofele, Nov 16, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2025
    Also if they both draw. Morocco will surpass Italy as well.

    If Austria beat Bosnia-Herzegovina, then for sure they will surpass Ecuador, regardless of the result in Ecuador-New Zealand. But not wih a draw. Regarding surpassing South Korea, it will depend on the result in South Korea-Ghana
     
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  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Jamaica win, then I'd agree.

    I mean I like Surinam's chances to win the group vs Guatemala's backups, even away. And favor Panama strongly to beat El Salvador at home. I think both end on 12, though Panama pipping them on GD is possible.

    If both Suriname & Panama win, then Costa Rica's only hope is to beat Honduras at home and hope Haiti fail to win home to Nicaragua. The cannot claim a PO spot on 9 points. However, if there are draws...

    But if Jamaica lose, and Honduras & Haiti both win, then 2nd from C will make the POs.

    But I think you are spot on, most likely.

    To WC: Suriname, Jamaica, Haiti
    To IC POs: Panama, Curacao
     
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  12. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Norway qualified officially. Italy officially a placeholder, though likely pot 2 when all is said and done.

    I. Pot 1
    1. United States, Hosts, 16th
    2. Mexico, Hosts, 14th
    3. Canada, Hosts, 28th
    4. Spain, almost certainly qualified, 1st
    5. Argentina, Qualified, 2nd
    6. France, Qualified, 3rd
    7. England, Qualified, 4th
    8. Portugal, Qualified, 5th
    9. Netherlands, functionally qualified, 6th
    10. Brazil, Qualified, 7th
    11. Belgium, almost certainly qualified, 8th
    12. Italy, POs #1, 9th

    Those in the know say Germany & Croatia can pass Italy with wins and even draws.

    II. Pot 2:
    1. Germany, likely qualify/ in PO, 10th
    2. Croatia, Qualified, 11th
    3. Morocco, Qualified, 12th
    4. Colombia, Qualified, 13th
    5. Uruguay, Qualified, 15th
    6. Switzerland, likely qualify/in PO, 17th
    7. Senegal, Qualified, 18th
    8. Japan, Qualified, 19th
    9. Denmark, likely qualify/in PO, 20th
    10. Iran, Qualified, 21st
    11. South Korea, Qualified, 22nd
    12. Ecuador, Qualified, 23rd

    Those in the know say Austria can pass Ecuador & South Korea with a win, unsure with a draw.

    Pot 3
    1. Austria, likely qualify/in PO, 24th
    2. Australia, Qualified, 25th
    3. Turkey, likely POs #2/qualify, 26th
    4. Ukraine, In PO, PO#3, 27th
    5. Norway, Qualified, 29th
    6. Panama, likely INT PO#1/qualify, 31st
    7. Egypt, Qualified, 32nd
    8. Poland, functionally PO#4 33rd
    9. Algeria, Qualified, 35th
    10. Paraguay, Qualified, 39th
    11. Ivory Coast, Qualified, 42nd
    12. Tunisia, Qualified, 43rd

    Pot 4
    1. Qatar, Qualified, 52nd
    2. Uzbekistan, Qualified, 55th
    3. Iraq, home leg 2 AFC 1-1, 57th
    4. Saudi Arabia, Qualified, 58th
    5. South Africa, Qualified, 59th
    6. Honduras, leading, 64th
    7. Jordan, Qualified, 66th
    8. Cape Verde, Qualified, 71st
    9. Ghana, Qualified, 73rd
    10. Curacao, leading, 82nd
    11. New Zealand, Qualified, 85th
    12. Suriname, leading, 126th

    Possible IC PO placeholders. Look like all Pot 4 save for Panama and maybe Costa Rica.

    Panama, in PO atm, 31st, 2nd Group A
    Costa Rica, out atm, 45th, 3rd Group C
    Iraq, alive, 57th, tied 1-1 leg 2 at home
    DR Congo, IN PO, 60th
    Honduras, in WC atm, 64th, 1st Group C
    UAE, alive, 67th, tied 1-1 leg 2 away,
    Jamaica, in PO atm, 68th 2nd Group B
    Bolivia, in PO, 76th
    Curacao, atm in WC, 82nd, 1st Group B
    New Zealand, in PO, 85th
    Haiti, out atm, 88th, 2nd Group C
    Suriname, in WC atm, 126th, 1st Group A

    Those in the know say that DR Congo will pass Iraq and likely be the othe IC PO seed. Costa Rica are unlikely to make it as a PO team.

    Again, I am sure I messed something up.

    Someone who catches it, please correct.
     
  13. Felix Herve Caroll

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Ivory Coast
    I remember about the fact Italy was feared from the 1980's to 2006. Same for the clubs.
    It's incredible Italy lost 1-4 at home.
    I'm convinced Italy with Paolo Rossi, Baresi, Salvatore Schillachi, Roberto Baggio, Christian Vieri, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Canavarro and many others would beat this Norway Team. Italy beat Norway in 1994 and 1998.
    Let's be honest, Italian football has been in decline. I'll not forget a nation which calls football "soccer" beat Italy 3-0 during the FIFA U-20 World Cup this year.
    It's the youth training Italian folks. Look at Spain, England, France and Germany. They've invested heavily in youth training. More than 20 years ago, Italy beat them.
     
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  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you are Pot 4 and you get Norway as your Pot 3 team, that will likely be death unless you get a soft Pot 1 (Canada) or a soft #2 (??).
     
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  15. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Not with a draw.

    I think you mean New Caledonia.
     
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  16. Itiofele

    Itiofele Member

    Sporting Cristal
    Peru
    Jan 1, 2018
    Lima, Peru
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Norway has faced Italy in all three of its World Cup appearances (1938, 1994, 1998), and lost each time. In 1938 and 1998 it was in an elimination match. In 1994, it was in the group fase, and that result contributed to their elimination.
     
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  17. Kalifornia

    Kalifornia Member

    Liverpool FC
    France
    May 15, 2006
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Same for the Euros in Germany. Ticket in hand, you get to ride public transportation for free. I parked away from the city and stadiums and rode buses, trains, you name it... and since we're in Europe, public transportation works! Often and on time...
     
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  18. Kalifornia

    Kalifornia Member

    Liverpool FC
    France
    May 15, 2006
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Norway would obliterate Panama any time of the day... these rankings are still not perfect.
    And by the way, Germany will pass Italy for sure now to go Pot 1 where it belongs. Panama would probably beat Italy nowadays!
     
  19. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, group of death will most likely be whatever group Norway gets drawn into. They are levels above everyone else in their pot (especially if Austria get bumped up to pot 2).
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Italy does have a history of relying on their old veteran guys a little too much. Whether it is at club level or at National Team level. I think that hurts them.
    I also think they relied too much on the dark arts of the game and not so much on the creativity and flair of it which makes it difficult to compete with the big boys.
    When your last fantastic creative player was Pirlo who played more than a decade ago you know that could be a problem.
     
  21. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY

    Its been even longer since Italy produced a great striker. Their nation's downward spiral started at Euro 2008, which aligns with Pippo Inzaghi reaching his mid-30s.
     
  22. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I see them more than dark horses; not the top top favorites (Spain, Argentina, or France) but the tier below of teams that can challenge for the title.

    I want to see them play against real challenges before the world cup.
     
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  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    They will be a fascinating team to observe in this World Cup.

    They have all the makings of a team that can make a deep run.

    However, they can also end up being like Poland of 2018. An overrated team built around a super star striker with a lot of hype but the pressure was too big and they did not match up well with teams from outside their Confederation.

    Let's see how it all goes down.
     
  24. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    For sure Norway are not winning this World Cup. But I think its safe to say they can be a big problem for literally any national team out there, and they will get some big scalps. Not gonna say it will happen in this WC because they may only get 1 chance against a true contender, but certainly at some point in the Odegaard-Haaland era.

    I think Norway are roughly where Belgium was 12 years ago, but they have more headwinds to deal with due to having such a low FIFA ranking.
     
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  25. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Comparing Norway to Belgiums Golden generation is a massive stretch. They haven't done jack yet but beat up an average Italy team. They haven't even qualified for the euros recently. Let's not get carried away.
     

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