FIFA World Cup '26: News & Analysis

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  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  2. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can’t wait to take a massive business loan to go see the World Cup final in two years
     
  3. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the format change increasing the number of games by 30%, they got the exact proportional increase from 10 to 13 games. The three knockout matches each is exactly the same as what was proposed in the original bid.
     
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  4. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So can we be confident that - wherever possible - AFC, CAF and UEFA teams will play earlier in the day and that Concacaf and Conmebol teams will kick-off later?
     
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  5. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    i assume the kick offs in europe will be...

    CEST: 18.00, 21.00, 0.00, 3.00

    EST: 12.00, 15.00, 18.00, 21.00
    CST: 14.00, 17.00, 21.00
    WST: 12.00, 15.00, 18.00

    so on tournament day 3 with Boston, NY/NJ, Vancouver and SF

    Boston at 12 local time
    NY/NJ at 15 local time
    Vancouver at 15 local time
    SF at 18 local time.

    all in all 4 matches a day means that they do not do parallel kick offs (except on the last matchday for fairness reasons).

    very good!
     
  6. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    #2606 Gibraldo, Feb 4, 2024
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2024

    for 64 to 104 is not an increase by 30% but like around 80%

    ah got it..
    you are referring to. the oroginal plan with lile 88 games or so
     
  7. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the 16x3 format had 80 games, so the increase to 104 was 30%.
     
  8. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  9. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    after a deeper analysis i am more or less convinced it is like that.

    the schedule has never 3 matches in the western region and an additional 4th match in the central region.

    if that was the case, they would have had to kick ff at 11 am at the central venue what they apparently want to avoid.
     
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  10. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    They did switch times after the draw in Qatar. They kindly rescheduled one of our games to a late evening kickoff (my time) rather than the middle of the night.
     
  11. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    I am pretty much shocked how little they revealed
     
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  12. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  13. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    At 56 days, the period from the mandatory release date to the end of the tournament will remain identical to the 2010, 2014 and 2018 editions of the FIFA World Cup.

    (FIFA Q&A)
     
  14. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    - The final four matchdays of the group stage will feature six matches per day. Matches in the same group will be played simultaneously to maintain the integrity of the competition.
    - All other group-stage matchdays will feature four matches per day across four kick-off times.
     
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  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just for the sake of completeness, there's one more zone as the Mexican cities will be on the equivalent of US Mountain Time--they are Central Time but don't change for the summer. So 13:00, 16:00, 19:00 there.

    Those times in a few other places:

    2:00, 5:00, 8:00, 11:00 Sydney/Melbourne
    1:00, 4:00, 7:00, 10:00 Japan/Korea
    00:00, 3:00, 6:00, 9:00 China
    21:30, 00:30, 3:30, 6:30 India
    19:00, 22:00, 1:00, 4:00 Qatar
    13:00, 16:00, 19:00, 22:00 Argentina/most of Brazil
     
  16. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    All that fuss to announce stuff they could have announced the same day they picked the venues.
     
  17. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    thanks for correcting it.

    well Asia is quite on the bad end of it.
    but i cannot see they move it to reasnabble times in Nkrth america and asia at the cost of europa.

    image a +3 hours to all matches would result in 15.00, 18.00, 21.00 anx 24.00 at the US east coast.

    it only moves everything in asia from night to morning which isnt good either and qatar and saudi arabia will have then wc at only night matches. thise and europe are the most relevant markets apart from america and als south america isnt thrilled about 16, 19, 22 and 1am.

    maybe +1 hour to those i foresee is an option.

    however. i favor daytime matches anyways.
     
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  18. uuaww

    uuaww Member+

    Nov 21, 2007
    New Orleans, LA
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So no F1 vs F2 or F3 vs F4 until post draw. They will assign city pairs... say Dallas and KC to a specific group later this year but FIFA is reserving the right to put which team where until post draw. Basically cities can "appeal" to FIFA to get the big seeded team.
     
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  19. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    I get that but they won't even reveal the knockout bracket until after the draw??
     
  20. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    East Asia always gets the bad end of it because of geography, but FIFA did shift times around for some games in Qatar to allow some time zones to watch a game of their national team at a reasonable hour. Admittedly the game we were involved in that was shifted was a game against an African side rather than a European one. It's really only the first kickoff time in the list you quoted (if that's what they end up with) that will be difficult for me. The second match means getting up an hour and a bit early and as I'm retired the last two time slots should be fine. If they use that as a timetable and the conversions are correct games at 8AM and 11AM are quite good for me.
     
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  21. AlexCr

    AlexCr Member

    Chelsea
    Romania
    Nov 13, 2023
    Yeah got it but i didn’t expect to have a kick off time for m34 in Kansas City on 20th June but i think an actual kick off time for the final game, semifinals and opening game it wasn’t too much to ask for. Also they already know what the kick off times will be for group stage and KO rounds and i think it’s a bit disappointing that we don’t have that info by now
     
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  22. ValenAle.

    ValenAle. Member

    Port Vale
    Scotland
    May 31, 2021
    #2622 ValenAle., Feb 5, 2024
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2024
    Yep, but at least I can now see if I can string certain games/venues into a 2-3 week road trip.........even though I won’t get any tickets anyway ( well, maybe not until the FCFS). :rolleyes:
     
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  23. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    #2623 jesta, Feb 5, 2024
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2024
    while anything is possible with FIFA, even they can't go that far o_O

    I assume that bracket will be announced sometimes prior to the draw and then they will assign games within particular groups to stadiums previously assigned to those groups, and set appropriate kickoff times to fit the time zones. with this schedule there will be at least two groups played in two countries.

    but we are talking about FIFA .... never say never!
     
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  24. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    This might well be the reason.

    Let us assume - by example they draw

    B1 - Argentina
    B2 - Austria
    B3 - Ghana
    B4 - South Korea

    So they keep B1-B4, but instead of a standard sequence like
    Matchday 1: ARG v AUT + GHA v KOR
    Matchday 2: ARG v B3 + AUT v KOR
    Matchday 3: ARG v KOR + AUT v GHA

    ...they shuffle according to an AI generated optimized group schedule into
    Matchday 1: ARG v GHA + AUT v KOR
    Matchday 2: AUT v KOR + ARG v GHA
    Matchday 3: ARG v AUT + GHA v KOR
     
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  25. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, that could well be the reason.

    The guiding principle is the global audience; scheduling will try to maximise it as much as possible. After all, that's how how they secured that staggering 5.500m engagement figure for Qatar 2022.
     

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