FIFA World Cup 2026: England Tournament Thread [R]

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Apr 2, 2026.

  1. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    According to the BBC Scott Is poised to make his debut in one of the friendlies. He's also fully committed to England
     
  2. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    I doubt he'd be travelling to Florida in the off season if he wasn't
     
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  3. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    All those who are the on standby players will play.

    I think Ngumoha, Scott, King, Steele and Nwaneri will play.

    I’ve repeated it here and elsewhere but Tuchel is very concerned by load management and having players at their peak with no injuries.
     
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  4. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #1954 Fireburn47, Jun 3, 2026
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    Those friendlies are going to be a repeat of March aren’t they. Probably with at least one draw or defeat and then a week of negativity because the mood is already more hostile than it was when we lost to Iceland 2 years ago.
     
  5. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I think Trafford and pickford will play a game each
     
  6. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    You should be in your element then
     
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  7. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Hahahahaa
     
  8. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    There’s being pessimistic and then predicting something like this for no logical reason.
     
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  9. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    #1959 Fireburn47, Jun 3, 2026
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    It’s just we have seen what happens when Tuchel experiments to rest players and it’s not a good watch. Maybe he should have been braver and not held proper friendlies and worked out how to compensate ITV. I can’t imagine the March matches were enjoyable to play in either.
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Kyle Walker says he would have took Maguire, Shaw and Gibbs-White to the World Cup and is concerned about James and Stones ability to keep fit. He also said Tuchel never phoned him after the Senegal match and ignored his calls.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/39288713/kyle-walker-england-world-cup-squad/
    (Stones seems to be turning into another target of the media for some reason with constant reminders of how little he has played this season)
     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Christ mate, you’ve outdone yourself here!
     
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  12. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It is going to look a bit ridiculous when Alex Scott comes on and blatantly outperforms Henderson in these friendlies.
     
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  13. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member+

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    #1963 Catenaccio88, Jun 3, 2026
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    This is where the discussion around technique gets interesting. When looking at technical ability. I'd argue that there is a distinction between a Baseline and Ceiling. You mentioned Ben Arfa who's a good example of this. A much higher ceiling than his baseline.

    The reason I used Gascoigne, is he (like Rooney ) lived a wreckless lifestyle with drinking problems, plus career injuries (which Rooney never had). But Gascoigne had that generational high ceiling and a technical baseline which was still very high, even if not extraordinary. And Gascoigne undoubtedly had both a higher baseline AND ceiling than Rooney. And going by those two metric's (combined), even in spite of Gascoigne's poor lifestyle, he still remains the most technically rounded footballer England has ever produced.

    Outside of striking the ball, Rooney had a baseline which was ok, and a ceiling which was a lot higher than his baseline (teenage Rooney's ceiling was enormous). And this is why I believe his touch often looked so 'off' when he lost his early athleticism - he didn't have that technical baseline to fall back on..like a Paul Scholes or a Harry Kane. Although I do agree that his poor lifestyle shortened the lifecycle of the young ceiling monster Rooney from 2004, and was already gone as early as 2008-2009.

    Another interesting thing about technical baseline is that it's the one area of technical discourse, where there's been an obvious gap between English footballers and players from elite producers like Spain and (historically) Holland. We've been well aware of it since the 80s and it's remained the topic thats haunted us almost every two yrs after a tournament exit; "why can't we produce players who are as secure under pressure as [insert random country]"

    However it is also the one area where we've made the biggest improvements over the past 10-15 yrs since overhauling youth academies. England never had as much of an issue producing high ceiling players like Rooney, Waddle, John Barnes, Gerrard, Gascoigne etc. It's the output with that elite technical baseline where we've historically come up short.

    And thankfully, recent cohorts have produced more players with a really high baseline than all previous combined; Foden, Palmer, Mainoo, Bellingham, Dowman, Saka, Musiala, Olise and possibly Wharton and Gibbs White etc. It's a key reason why I dont think Tuchel was the right successor to Southgate to build on Englands football identity - but that's another discussion.
     
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  14. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I'd have Ronaldo9, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo in there
     
  15. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member+

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    Well then there's the complete football freaks that fall into the category of combining both top end baseline and top-end ceiling, like Messi, Zidane, Maradona and Van Basten. However these players are generational one-offs and more importantly, history has shown they're not an absolute necessity for winning tournaments.

    I'd personally have Ronaldo R9, Ronaldinho and Cristiano in the category of having super high ceiling, but not the super high technical baseline of Xavi, Modric or Pirlo.

    What makes Messi and Zidane and Maradona so special is they rank so high in both
     
  16. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    R9 was the most technically gifted player of his era. He was also the best player in the world for a few years
     
  17. Catenaccio88

    Catenaccio88 Member+

    England
    Sep 23, 2023
    #1967 Catenaccio88, Jun 3, 2026
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    He certainly had the highest ceiling in the world, during the mid-late 90s, when he was at Inter Milan.
     
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  18. Inter Row Z

    Inter Row Z Member+

    Oldham Athletic
    England
    Mar 26, 2023
    Can we at least wait until a ball is kicked before deciding whether to continue with this one-man mission to dampen everybody's hopes and enthusiasm?
     
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  19. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I would say it might be politically shall we say, useful, to have France and Spain as heavy favourites even though we're near or near enough as good as they are.

    It takes the heat off the players mentally and allows tuchel a bit of leeway to set the tone and control the narrative somewhat.
     
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  20. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Croatia lost 2-0 to Belgium in a friendly.

    I don't get the hype about Croatia being a potential world beater when their best players are all in their 30s (Modric is also 40).
     
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  21. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are we? That's very much TBC for me. Absolutely no evidence of that being the case right now imo.
     
  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    If we played either France or Spain right now, it would probably look very similar to how Arsenal and PSG played out with us Arsenal. Not saying we couldn’t win on the day but I think either France or Spain beat us 7 or 8 times out of 10.
     
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  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    That is a good idea but I’m not sure Tuchel is going to be given the leeway to set the tone. There is not a lot of space in the game between The team plays pretty well and people get excited or ans the team plays bad and people get depressed/angry.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  25. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
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