FIFA to review Slovenia-USA officiating

Interesting. I think that guy was just in above his head. He wasnt used to the intricacies and inensity of a WC match. By 50 minutes in he was a bedraggled ball of nerves with sweat rolling off him by the buckets.

Hopefully they take a look at the even worse ref from Spain in the ger-srb game. There is no excuse for that huy to be so horrible other than pure malice.

 

I see it the same way you do.

 

"What impact can we expect this to have on officiating in the rest of the tournament? If that had been a knockout round game and a team like Brazil had been eliminated by the official just making up a random call in the 90th minute".

Wait.

In my experience of watching the WC, the call is ALWAYS FOR Brasil, never against.

Paging fans of Turkey National Team...


Do you know why many Americans do not follow the sport?
After chatting up a few, after the usual "boring" and "no action", comes the "So the referee makes a call like that and there is no review? And that's 4 years down the drain?".

 

Ivory Coast = New Turkey

 

I hear you.

As bad as that call was, I agree. It was nothing like the job done in the Serbia victory over Germany.

All positivity to Serbia for their performance, but the referee handcuffed the Germans for no reason.

 

So what? I hate the ref as much as you do, but I don't think there is much will happen, if anything. Lots of referees will go home anyway, only a few elites are stay in the knock out rounds and beyond. You're right in one thing though, if this is a knock-out round and the team is Brazil, people will not tell us to "stop crying" but they will cry instead.

 

Its impossible review that play, FIFA cant do nothing to reverse to that play and change that injustice.

This will keep happening until FIFA take the decision of review the plays on field. All proffesional sports do that (NBA, NFL, ATP). Why not soccer? One objection has been that not all the competitions around the world can have good cameras, but in a world cup, with those high definition cameras like them use, why not?

 

The guy blew the whistle right as the freekick was taken, so it doesn't matter play should not have continued, there is nothing to complain about, there have actually been worse calls, like the Serbia v Germany game as a whole and the foul goal Heinze scored against Nigeria. The Mexico dive against France.

 

Not one to champion the USA, but I'd like to have some kind of explaination about what exactly was the infraction the ref saw. When you look at the replay there could have been four yellow cards against Slovenia for holding US players. I don't see any from the Americans side at all. Oh well maybe its just karma for all the other crap the US does around the world.

 

What the hell are you talking about? This is like the fifteenth time someone has said this. WHAT MATCH ARE YOU WATCHING? The whistle came a split second before edu kicked it. A good 3 seconds after starting the place kick.

 

As much as I don't like what happened in the USA game, I find it unacceptable that FIFA allows the ref to hide and not explain why he made the call he did. If the ref manned up and admited he made a big mistake, I could understand it (like in the baseball game a few weeks ago). But FIFA allows the refs to hide.

 

I have no idea what the ref called but I do think there could have been an offside called at the moment of the free kick a US attacker is in offside position. Obviously the ball sails over the player's head but you could say that he was involved because the ball was not too far away from the offside player's head when it went over and that could of interfered in the goalkeeper's judgement whether to come out on Edu or stay on the line ...

I also wouldn't jump too much onto Undiano Mallenco because that 2nd yellow card on Klose was a foul from behind. It wasn't a hard foul but by the letter of the law ... Also he was pretty consistent once he made it clear that he would call a close game. Just because most referees are forgiving it doesn't mean that all of them have to be.

So far the biggest clear mistake that I've seen is the offside goal given to Slovakia. The 2nd biggest mistake was the straight red card to Cahill. Cahill had commited about 4 or 5 fouls already at that point so I understand the referee trying to send a message but the proper way would of been to give 2 yellows not a straight red. I also suspect that Cahill was already targeted by referees for his reckless foul in the New Zealand friendly.

 

That is football what can you do. If you want to play it like that than bring Ireland to the tournament and send French home. Start thinking how you gonna beat Algerians.

 

Don't mind us yanks. We have a hard time putting up with bullshit unlike the rest.

 

while there were obviously a few fouls on the Americans, there was also an American clearly pushing a Slovenian in the back, right in front of the ref. another poster mentions here that a case for off-side can also be made. the problem is that you are seemingly collectively incapable of seeing the other side.
what's the ref to do in this situation, count the fouls of each team and give to the one who has less? that's not how it works. if you commit a foul you can't complain for it being called. protesting that the other was worst is just childish.

seriously, when it comes to persecution complex, you Americans give the Russians a very good run for their money.

 

The referee was very poor and this level of football was way over his head. FIFA must not jeopardize the integrity of the game just for the sake of inclusion. Put the best refs in regardless what continent or country they belong to.

As for the goal, the referee should have wistled the play dead before free-kick was taken and hand out verbal warning to both sides. But his other mistake was to ignore Dempsy's dangerous foul. That set the standard for the players as to what they could get away with. That kind of elbow to the back of the neck can paralize a player for life; it's borderline criminal.

Another thing I noticed about the referee, he was consistently late in blowing his whistle. Seemed to me he was more pursaded by players' reaction and body language than the play itself.

Overall, the end result is fair. Each team owned one half and the score suggests as such.

 

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a link showing this?

 

you mean like a replay of the scene? do you have trouble finding any?

 

you are really clutching at straws. forget about the off-side, I saw a foul on a Slovenian player, right in front of the ref. chances are that's what he called.
as for him having the whistle in the mouth the whole time, refs do that all the time in such or similar situations. pay attention the next. maybe not every time, every ref will behave differently of course, but a lot do that. because let's face it, it doesn't take a genius to predict that there's likely to be a foul somewhere. only people with a persecution complex are convinced he was out to get them from the beginning. there was a foul on a Slovenian player fairly early on, so no-one can really complain that the ref called it.

 

People are mad because us Yanks are pissed off about this. You act like the Irish weren't mad about the handball. They absolutely were and rightly so. They even went as far as asking FIFA to be the 33rd team in the tournament.

US Soccer has only asked for an explanation of the call. Yet FIFA lets the crook hide behind closed doors, and does not make him man up.

Even the Slovenian team admitted that there was no infraction on our part, and that they did in fact foul our players.

There's nothing we can do now but prepare to beat Algeria and move on. FIFA should at the least grow some testicles and face this issue though.

We have the right to be pissed off though as well as the Germans. So people looking to talk crap about us being upset: Piss off, let us vent. It's only been 24 hours.

 

Thats exactly right. He decided the foul on Altidore was too soft a call, and would make it up calling one against the USA. Too bad there are a dozen HD, super slo-mo cameras catching everything. FIFA has to get in the 21st century. If this were to happen in a semi or final, riots could break out in the offending nation.

The ref in the Ger-Ser gaem did a fine job. He sent a message early and often that chippy and tactical fouls would not be tolerated. Klose didn't listen, he got sent off. 2nd half didn't have as many cheap fouls, did it.

 

Why would they do it now? There has been clear mistakes allowing or disallowing goals for what? Five decades already?

There were visible bad calls even in the third quarter of the 20th century...