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Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Bill Schmidt, Apr 19, 2006.
I'll believe it when they do it.
Tough talk but I think it is just talk.
What's the border of it.
When they sing (Nation not important) to an other Nation, we shit on you?
Or they sing ************?
Or they sing white ass?
Or they sing yellow dwarf?
Or when they hear you yell in your Living room things written above?
A scenario, Germany gets a goal from Japan, and I say "******** this bastards"
I' am an racist???
Surely not, I respect Japanese people. I only don`t like their goal in this second.
Is this a reason to see the match with a racissitic background?
The other way, Japan get's a goal fram Germany, they say "******** the long noses" is this the racistic background?
And who decide about, what is racisitc and what not?
The soccer sports live from rivalries and not from and with assholes who rule everything.
And racists are in FIFA they have words only again white men.
But the FIFA (Final Incompetance Football Association) looks only for money, and their rules to get it.
For e.G. why are standing places not allowed? The answer is the people who use it are all criminal. And it would be trouble.
Fact is, the other way rules, the league with the most att. worldwide is the Bundesliga 40.000+ att. each game (see http://www.piledriver.de/Zuschauerschnitt.html) and it happened nothing of the things the FIFA propagate.
In their stadiums the fans sing and have fun. No hools inside.
But FIFA want rules they like, my question is, is it the greed to make money or the mind of last century how they think?
My opinion: don't drink and post
He's not drunk, he's German.
That sounded racist to me. 3 points away from you, sir!
Its all pretty racist any way you look at it.
this is a good thing, if it is actually carried out and not just empty threats.
Does anyone know however, have there ever been any major cases of racist taunts towards players in any recent World Cup. Everything I've heard about has been in European leagues and some WC qualifying, but I haven't heard of any incidents at the WC itself. Has anybody heard of any WC incidents?
Even the staff can't understand Blather:
¿Has racist chanting really been a problem at the World Cup?
well, i think that now that the racist chants have been hapenning more often than ever, i believe that it is important for FiFa to enforce this rule at the World cup. so far its only been in some of the European League and a couple of international Friendlies (England vs Spain when spanish fans were chanting racinst chants towards Black English players) and it would be ashame if it got to the spirit of the world cup.
i agree that a comment right after your team conceded a goal has nothing to do with racism. but when there are consistent chants from fans towards the players, then its taking it too far.
in addition this rule i believe is not very effective because when it comes down to the knock out stage it would be useless, so after the world cup maybe FIFA should come up with a better idea to go about solving this problem.
No. One of the reasons is that WC has become a big amusment park for men in suits, and we love Sepp Blatter for it. There will be no racism which is good but generally it sucks.
What are yoy trying to say? Are you saying that "no racism generally sucks???? I'll give an opportunity to explain yourself with this one.
Anti-German, racist- !! We should not tolerate this kind of racism on these boards. You're walking on thin ice!
The only time I recall racist chanting in a major NT tournament was just one instance of a small group of fans in Euro 2004. In the semifinal, a black Portugese defender scored an own goal and a number of people (probably Portugese fans ) starting making those monkey noises at him.
I don't know what all the fuss is about....is everyone so thin skinned? When people make racist chants against you it is for 2 reasons:
They fear you
They wish they were you
I grew up in Australia, and had "Pommy bastard" hurled at me all the time.....I just stuck out my chest further. Anyway, the ruling is flawed from a start....what is to stop people pretending to be supporters of country X and hurling abuse at country Y, just so that country X gets chucked out? Let the fans police the event themselves, we already have too much nannying interference from governing bodies.
If I would to put on a U.S. nat team jersey (oh the horror) and go to the US vs Czech Republic match.
and yell all kinds of leud and racists remarks to nedved, baros, czech, and smicer.
the US would lose three points under the proposed rule.
so basically my question is
Does anyone have any extra tickets for the US vs Czech Republic game?
This is really stupid. You can't punish the team because of what the fans do.
1) I really doubt that people would sink that low, to pretend to be supporters of another country and hurl racist insults to dock points from that country,
2) Yes it is fair to punish teams for what their fans do. If you believe that it is unfair, then you are basically saying that it is okay for racism to continue. The year is fu78ing 2006 and if people still can't be civilized and have to act like ignorant savages then something has to be done. I don't care if the best team in the world gets eliminated because of this, it would send a clear message to all those racist bastards.
How about Sepp Blatter is a Kraut Bastidge!
That's like saying, if a teenager commits a crime, their parents should be thrown in prison. "And if they aren't put in prison, that means you think crime is OK"
This isn't a club competition, in home stadiums. This is the World Cup Finals. The teams are guests. They don't own the stadiums. Why should the teams be punished? This is total nonsense. I don't see how it is so difficult to just kick and ban people that are being loudly racist.
I agree with you here, actually. The teams shouldn't be held responsible for their fans behavior in a venue where it would be an easy thing for people who've never attended a match involving either team to come in wearing a jersey and verbally assault the opposition. I do think points can and should be deducted at the qualifying level, where people in attendance are much more likely to be citizens and fans of one team or the other.
I'm not certain that this will become a problem at the World Cup. If it does, my hope is that a racially diverse crowd will beat to a comatose pulp anyone who utters racist chants before the authorities can get there to escort them out.
Where was FIFA when virtually all caucasians were banned from the African football leagues?
I'm not saying to dock points if one or two people yell racist insults,( this would not even be heard by players anyways), but if it is a large widespread thing (which would probably only happen when a team is at home) then points should be deducted. That is if racist chanting can be heard throughout the stadium and becomes a distraction from the game.
where the hell did u get this from ?