FIFA.com -- Bruce Arena: The Time is Now

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Atouk, Apr 15, 2003.

  1. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    Fifa:
    Have you had the opportunity to see young 13-year-old American football prodigy Freddy Adu play?
    Bruce:
    Yes I have. And I believe he is a very good player for his age.
     
  3. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
     
  4. mikesterw

    mikesterw New Member

    May 2, 2001
    Long Island, NY
    Noticed that he mentioned Quaranta as being considered for the National team along with Convey (that we knew). This is a first for me I didn't know that Quaranta was even on The Bruce's radar right now. I would have seem to think that Quaranta would have had to be more of a dominant player in MLS. Anyone know if Tino has been called into camp to practice with the nats at least?
     
  5. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    The only players that I can think of that can play their way onto the Sr team through MLS would be Edson Buddle and Santino Quaranta.
     
  6. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruce's radar screen is pretty far reaching. It includes Freddy, and might even include you and me. well maybe not me. ;)
     
  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Is the article still up? The link doesn't work for me and I can't find it on the site.
     
  8. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are installing a "new look" at FIFA.com. It's been up and down throughout the day (at some point, one of the links was working, then the other, then both, then neither). Hopefully it'll be up for good soon.
     
  9. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any youth national team has to be on the radar of the senior team. Tino has been pretty dominate in MLS, unforunately he missed most of last year with injuries.
     
  10. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I believe 'Tino and Buddle are about the same size, if we could pair them up top that could pose some problems if we played any teams with smallish backlines. I'm not calling for it, I think the Buddle-Donavon pairing is what it will be for the next few years, but its something to think about.
     
  11. Lance90

    Lance90 Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    You have a pretty liberal definition of "dominate." He hasn't exactly set the league on fire in his two years even before he got hurt. He didn't look all that sharp at the U-17 Championships either.
     
  12. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well dominate may have been a bit strong.

    Considering the following

    He was injuried at the world championship.

    Edson Buddle's stats for the last 2 years including this season

    2003 GP 2 Goals 1 Assists 0 Points 2
    2002 GP 21 Goals 9 Assists 5 Points 23
    2001 GP 17 Goals 3 assists 2 Points 8

    Total points per game 0.825

    Tino
    2003 GP 1 Goals 1 Assists 0 Points 2
    2002 GP 11 Goals 3 Assists 4 Points 10
    2001 GP 16 Goals 5 Assists 1 Points 11

    Total points per game 0.821

    If Buddle is ready for the National team, so is Tino. It shouldn't be a surprise if Tino gets called in, thats the point.
     
  13. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet
     
  14. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    I think that the "new" faces that we will see are from the European front. The MLS guys had their fair share of offseason freindlies.
     
  15. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess it depends on what is meant by "new" faces. If by "new" they mean guys who weren't on the World Cup roster, we'll likely see some of those from MLS... probably more than from abroad.

    I'd think Bocanegra is nearing a lock for the Confed Cup. A guy like Howard probably gets to go too. Depending on what happens between now and then, guys like Cunningham, Convey, Buddle, Twellman, Califf, Victorine, or Garcia could be on the Confed Cup roster.

    But, sure, Euro-based US guys who weren't on the World Cup squad (Barrett, Vanney - due to injury, Kirovski) may get added too. Still, most of our Euro-based guys who might get a call for the Confed Cup were on the World Cup roster.
     
  16. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
     
  17. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone point me to where I can learn about all these new, young players plying their trade in euro land and who now will get their chance with the U.S. nats. Seeing as how all the MLSers have gotten a shot.


    What are you talking about, ojsgillt? WHAT R U TALKING about?

    There are next to NO young'ens on anyone's radar in Europe. Two, with potential, come to mind. Conor "Mr. crappy olympics" Casey and John "I play for the worst team in the English 2nd Division" Thorington.

    Johnny O. is hardly a newbie. Cherundolo is a bit more than a newbie. Who's that leave?

    At THIS moment, the future of our national team lies squarely in the MLS. That could change.
     
  18. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    I disagree. You can go the Yanks abroad section and see who all is plying their trade abroad.

    Potential NT'ers as Yanks Abroad: JOB, Dolo, Sanneh, Reyna, Friedel, Keller, Hahnemahn (on fire lately), Cannon (not as the #2 where he is now), Casey, Gibbs, Kirovski, Barrett, Lewis, Vanney, Thorrington (big stretch)

    All of the above have a shot to impact either qualifying or the 2006 team. We also have a bunch of other players spread out across Europe.

    The truth is MLS should feed Europe more so MLS can develop more players at home. DMpee, Mathis, Donovan, Howard, Bocanegra will all be jumping to Europe hopefully. But that is a whole nother can of worms.
     
  19. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But this conversation was about "new" guys to the team who are playing in Europe and who might be on the Confederations Cup team. Speedcake broadened it to the "future" but I presume that was meant to not include veterans. Of course veterans like O'Brien, the keepers, etc., will be major players through the next WC cycle.

    As for "new" guys, seven of the fifteen you named were on the World Cup roster. Vanney would have been, but for a last-minute injury. Kirovski is anything but new.

    That leaves Hahnemann, Cannon, Casey, Gibbs, Barrett, and Thorrington as potential "new" guys. Cannon and Barrett are all-but MLS guys, having just left the States. In any case, what are the odds that more than one of those four non-keepers are on the Confed Cup roster? Barrett would seem to have a shot, but do any of the others have a legit chance to be called up in two months?

    In addition, maybe one or two of the keepers get the call if Arena doesn't want to take MLS guys away from their teams to ride the pine.
     
  20. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thank you. some people just can't wait to push that quote button and then put in something clever! :D


    Add: Barret, while promising I guess, is plying his trade in Denmark. A league that can NOT be argued to be very superior to our own. He is starting, and that puts him in the chase along with the best MLS based defenders. He gets no edge by simply being in Euroland.

    Casey: Not playing, showed a few good minutes last season. I can't justify calling in a talent like Casey, over one in MLS that is getting significant minutes. When he starts making SOME impact for his team he can be considered for a callup.

    Gibbs: How old is he, I know nothing about him, can't comment.

    The point is that compared to MLS based youth at THIS moment Europe based don't hold any clear advantage.
     
  21. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

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    Arlington, VA
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    Queens Park Rangers FC
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    United States
  22. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    It' on the first page of fifa.com for me. He didn't say anything most of us didn't know already.
     
  23. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    I actually understood your post. I think that you are just looking too pessimistically at the Yanks abroad. My point was there is a large group of players who have the shot to impact 2006 whether on the team or in qualifying. I didn't even mention Berhalter. I listed those players because things aren't bad in Europe even with younger players. In addition to the verteran possibilities for 2006 that I listed, there are also a series of players (I think about 90 strong) who are in the lower divisions of various European leagues some of which are young. Some of them are currently on the reserve sides at big clubs and the US U-? sides (Simek at Arsenal, Spector at ManU this summer e.g.) some are at lower division sides (Gooch at Metz, Gibbs at St. Pauli, e.g.). Some of them are even in more obscure leagues. The moral was there are about 90 Yanks abroad. Any of them can put together a couple of good seasons, get promoted up a division and have an impact on the USMNT.
     
  24. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is truth. What isn't truth is that the next few friendlies THIS year are going to involve a bunch of youth playing in Europe. I completely agree though that in a year, maybe two, even three, when many of these kids are getting more playing time things will be looking brighter than ever.

    Right now, I mean for this summer, even for the rest of this year, MLS is going to be providing 75% of every roster Arena puts togethor.
     
  25. JackTown55

    JackTown55 New Member

    He burst onto the seen in BL.1 last year with St. Pauli, who were relegated, and spent much of this season injured, but has reclaimed a starting spot the last few weeks. He is 22 I think, drafted by MLS, but signed with St. Pauli to try and prove himself in Germany. He is center back, though he played on the right a couple of times I think, I think people said he is similar in build and style to Pope on the YA forum last year, but I have never seen him play.
     

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