Fidel Takes This Opportunity to Start Slapping People In Jail

I recently heard a report about this on, I believe, NPR. They reported that the "dissidents" had all met with a US diplomat there. I'm not blaming the US or its diplomat, but wasn't such a thing forseeable? Were the meetings supposed to be secret? What happened? Totally f'ed up.

Cuba sucks. Time to resurrect Operation Northwoods.

 

How is this different from the republicans who want to put Anti-war protesters away for 25 years, or what's to come under the Patriot Act?

 

In Cuba, you actually GO to jail for 25 years for protesting the government.

 

Maybe some of these republicans should move there, their ideologies seem in line.

 

So in our domestic policy as articulated and enacted by the People's Lawyer, Mr. "I lost to a corpse" Ashcroft, we're moving in a direction not of further distinction between Castro's Cuba and America, but rather in a direction of more and more similarity, correct?

 

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=42226

 

This is fun Bill, I'm glad you're on here.

How about protestors we've had killed too?

Here's four:

Allison Krause, Jeffrey Miller, Sandra Scheuer and Will Schroeder. Date of government execution May 4, 1970.

Your turn.

 

That's what happens when you send the military to do the police's job. I'm pretty sure the Guardsmen weren't trained for non-lethal crowd control. The whole situation was sad.

 

Because comparing ourselves to Cuba is...illuminating.

 

I took it one step further, now name me FOUR people Castro has had killed.

BTW, our government doesn't post lists of names of people they have "detained" since 9/11. So please forgive me for not having classified information on hand to post on BigSoccer.com.

 

This is Castro taking prime advantage of an opportunity when the rest of the world is watching Iraq to settle some old scores. Since the current director of the US interests section, James Cason, took over, he's been very active in openly meeting with the more prominent dissidents. He's had them to the interests section residence and offices, something that would have been unheard of just two years ago, when they were largely underground. This is an embarrassment to Castro. So is the Varela Project, the landmark petition with over 11,000 signatures requesting legislation to improve human rights, especially the freedom of speech. Now that the US has turned its attention to the middle east, Fidel can get back to business.

But the idea that these dissidents will go to jail for life or perhaps even be killed is far from the truth. It is true that Castro held what were basically summary executions in the early days after the revolution took power. But not any more. What is true is that there is little to no due process resulting in someone being arrested on a trumped up charge (with he or she perhaps not even being told the charge), prosecuted on the basis of secret evidence in a procedure that in no way resembles a fair trial. But the actual sentence is usually closer to 5-7 years for political dissent. Most of the dissidents themselves admit that "people don't just disappear" in Cuba -- they're just thrown in jail for nothing. Most of them have been in jail on multiple occasions, but only for short periods of time, rather then receiving life sentences. They are also subjected to intense harrassment from the government and its sympathizers on a regular basis, resulting in vandalism, lack of ability to work, discrimination in receiving monthly food stipends, etc. The most prominent of these dissidents (Oswaldo Paya, Elizardo Sanchez, Delgado, and those facing trials right now) actually are aware that they will never come to true harm because in the past few years they have reached place of international prominence that would result in actual retribution against Castro should they be killed.

 

To what book are you referring?

 

We've actually gotten to the point where we're claiming scoreboard for being more free than f***ing CUBA?

Handbasket Airlines, Flight 666 for Hell, now boarding rows 1-10,000....

 

Unfortunately. But thanks for making me laugh.

 

C'est mon point. C'est tres drole, ne c'est pas?

 

Just because I don't think the U.S. government is as infallable as you doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Thomas Jefferson, a man much smarter than your boy W, once said:

"To secure these [inalienable] rights [to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness], governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429

He's basically saying, "Question your government".

I plan on helping change our government by voting against Bush in 2004. Until then I hope to retain enough civil rights to question him.

 

Très grossier!

 

That's so cliche.

 

You've read his posts.....you should know the obvious answer.