Ferdinand Drug test.

Discussion in 'Premier League: News and Analysis' started by kopkat, Oct 6, 2003.

  1. kopkat

    kopkat New Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    drugs test

    rio ferdinand is at the centre of a drugs controversy
    that could stop him playing against turkey on sat
    he failed to turn up for a routine test 23 sept and has been asked to explain his actions at a personel
    interview 13 october
    it is thought this is why sven g e has delayed naming his squad
  2. RobB

    RobB New Member

    Aug 8, 2003
  3. TheBee

    TheBee New Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    Perhaps he really forgot. Would he be allowed to forget or would somebody have reminded him?
  4. Isisbud

    Isisbud New Member

    Mar 10, 2003
    Cocaine takes 24-48 hours to clear your system....
  5. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    By all accounts it was a genuine mistake. He was moving house that day (old excuse I know) and turned up late at ManYoo to take the test, at which point the testers had already headed off.

    He's a dopey sod, but hardly a Bosnich.
  6. Rambler

    Rambler New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Jesus when are these scandals gonna stop ! Just when we've got our biggest match in 18 months looming.

    Ferdinand often plays like he's off his head. He hasnt been good since the World Cup.

    Some real fine role modles we've got in the Premiership eh
  7. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
  8. rio_grande

    rio_grande New Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    Rio Drugs Test

    What happened?

    UK Sport drugs tester turns up for a pre arranged test at MU training on tues 29 Sept

    Rio is on the list of four players randomly chosen for a test

    Some reports say he was there but forgot to do the test and went home to move house

    36 hours later he does the test and is clean?

    Many drugs eg cocaine, ectasy leave the body within 72hrs

  9. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Useful information

    I'd call it an honest mistake
  10. RobB

    RobB New Member

    Aug 8, 2003
    I don`t know if anyone here who could see Channel 5 news saw this evenings programme. It was very funny, they did a Five Facts item on Rio. Kirsty Young said it with total exasperation which made it even funnier:

    1. Rio Ferdinand was first dropped from the England team when he was caught drink driving after a night out to celebrate his own call up.
    2. Rio was later in trouble after starring in his own home made porn film.
    3. Ferdinand was cautioned by police after jumping onto the bonnet of a moving car whilst drunk.
    4. He was last in court for being caught speeding three times in as many months.

    I can`t remeber what number five was, but the way Kirsty said it all it was clear she thinks he`s an imbecile. She opened the news with `Rio Ferdinand he`s Englands most expensive footballer, his he also the dumbest`.
  11. Isisbud

    Isisbud New Member

    Mar 10, 2003
    Please. He was informed he had to take a drug test right before he hit the showers after training. After his shower, he ran to his car and took off.

    Then says he "fogot."

    I have a bridge to sell you if you believe him.
  12. uklady

    uklady New Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    I think if Rio is guilty of anything, it is being a bit too arrogant - 'Stuff it, I'm moving house, they can wait' etc.
  13. guddy69

    guddy69 New Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    so its ok for any football players from now on to go home when a drugs test is due, wait 36 hours and say they "forgot" even if they were told just 45 minutes before??

    36 hours later when the drugs have gone from your sytem?? the FA might as well stop drug testing..

    wasn`t ferdinand out the night before?

    has he still got that drug dealer friend?

    was he seen shopping later that day when he was supposed to be moving?

    surely man u organised his move...they have people to do everything for the players dont they??
  14. TheBee

    TheBee New Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    I see a lot of reasons why this decision is correct. But I also see a lot of reason why it is not.

    He might have forgot. Not impossible. But it's also not impossible he took something and this was a way not to be discovered. Now (according to the polls) have of the national and all his teammates are behind him. If he took the drug test and it was positive, he would get the same treatment as the unknown rapists.
  15. TheBee

    TheBee New Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    I don't know if Rio was out the night before. I really don't care what players do in their free time (as long as they don't go around raping or roasting), but
    you are right on the delay part. You wait for a day or two and drugs are out of your system.
  16. Mac_Howard

    Mac_Howard New Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Mandurah, Perth, WA
    I read that he went back 2 hours later when he remembered but the testers had gone and wouldn't return. If that's true then I'm sure 2 hours isn't enough to disguise a positive test and it should surely be taken into account.

    The FA's timing seems particularly bad - the crucial England/Turkey game only a few days away. The only sensible comment I've heard on this is that Turkey could protest the result (ineligible player?) should England play Ferdinand and get the win/draw they need for automatic qualification. Anyone know anything about this?
  17. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001

    Why in gods name would they want to protest a victory? ;)
  18. baggyuk

    baggyuk New Member

    Oct 1, 2003

    Even if he has taken drugs, it has no been proven and he should be innocent until proven guilty. If his meeting is on Monday, he should be allowed to play in Turkey. If its all a mistake and he hasn't played its too late to change things.
  19. kopkat

    kopkat New Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    do you not think that within minutes of RF leaving the training ground someone from man u realising they could loose their thirty million pound defender for up to two years would have been ringing his mobile to tell him to get back now
  20. melwood

    melwood New Member

    Oct 4, 2003
    I'm just wondering. Rio seems to have this recurring knee injury. Could it be that something was given to him that could be detected during the drug test???

    I'm not saying that it would be an illegal drug but some steroids.

    I'm just hoping that it is a real mistake (forgot the date) and nothing serious.

    Euro Championship without England would be no fun for the fans in Singapore.
  21. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    The England players have apparently unanimously voted to not play the match in Turkey if Rio Ferdinand is left out of the squad. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=279815&cc=5901

    It looks like the whole of the decision could be based on a FA statement, which says that the hearing on Rio Ferdinand will not be held until after the Turkey match, but that Ferdinand is not eligible for selection because of the "seriousness with which the FA views breaches of it's doping control regulations". It also goes on to say that not selecting Ferdinand in no way pre-judges him, which is a load of crap, because it DOES pre-judge him. Presumably, he would have been selected if not for the missed test, so this is a punishment, and punishment assumes guilt. It's fine if they want to say "miss a drug test, and you are faced with an automatic 2 match ban", or whatever. To my knowledge though, they havent done that.
    You can read the FA statement, along with a Manchester United statement in reply, denouncing the FA decision at http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=279773&cc=5901
  22. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    if he's on roids, he's doing them wrong; ergo he's not very hulky. 72hrs is more than enough time to flush pretty much anything or get an operation to have 'clean' urine inserted into your bladder--even if you've taken lipid-based steroids like dyanobol(sp?). Even tho these test are 'random,' the players have far too much warning about an impending test. I don't think saliva swabs are all that accurate, but follicular test are harder to fool. I don't know about the FA, but the NFL won't disclose publically the violators identity until it's the 2nd breach of the code.
  23. kerpow

    kerpow New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    This is utter *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#. How can anyone possibly feel sorry for Ferdinand. He did a runner, blatantly missing a drugs test and now feels "victimised" and the other players are causing trouble before the most important game since the world cup.

    He's a professional and a role model, if he is stupid enough to do drugs how can he possibly feel cheated if he doesn't have the balls to admit to it.

    I'll be so pissed off if we loose this game and the players came back saying "Riogate disrupted our preparations". It's Ferdinands fault that he's in this situation, no one elses. The rules are nothing new, everyone knows about them.
  24. Prawn Sandwich

    Oct 1, 2003
    So you saw Rio take the drugs then? I can only assume this is the case considering you seem to present his drug-taking as a fact...

    As to the rules - why should Rio be treated any differently to other players. Another Premiership player was involved in a near-as-dammit identical situation last season got away with a "warning".

    Take your head out of your arse and try and view the world without glasses enscribed ABU....
  25. kerpow

    kerpow New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Bit stroppy are we sunshine, I'll get you a lollypop and everything will be ok.

    If I was told to take a drugs test and convienently "forgot" I wouldn't be allowed to return to work until my managers had decided what action would be taken. Why should anyone else be treated any differently?

    And what if the ball was on the shoe, if it was a Turkish player? They'd be an outcry, the tabloids would be littered with turkish junkie stories.

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