Feilhaber copes with limited action http://www.socceramerica.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=25516
I wonder if Maccabi Tel-Aviv would be interested in a loan. If they still wanted to buy him, they could pick him up afterwards. And why would an MLS loan be desirable? The season doesn't start for, like, a month and a half, right? Surely he could be playing somewhere sooner.
Same thing could be said about a loan to a Scandanavian league. He needs to play and he needs to play now. I don't know what the deal with Derby is. Something doesn't quite add up. Besides they suck and are 100% certain to be relegated. Benny needs out and if its via loan so be it. Let it happen. I wonder, like you said, if Maccabi Tel Aviv would be interested in a loan with a view to purchase.
True--I just checked, and the Allsvenskan, for example, starts at about the same time as MLS. Why go on a loan someplace where you won't get a competitive match for almost 60 days, especially coming from a place where you already rarely see competitive minutes? He should really think carefully about his next move.
It adds up quite simply. He just isn't in the current managers plans/style in the future. Thus, he is deemed surplus. Not unusual at all.
If he's going on loan then there's no matter where he's going... He has to go somewhere that still has their transfer window open.
Why did they purchase him? That's what I was getting at. He hasn't fit into the plans of two managers. Derby Co. is not a club that has the cash flow to purchase players and then have them sit and rot. They aren't in a position to pick and choose especially being buried at the foot of the table. Benny's move was a bad decision from the get-go and it lays on his shoulders. Now it's up to him to sort it out as quickly as possible.
they didn't scout him correctly... altho Benny would be in a better position if he could hold the ball better... but this was a move that was gonna flop before it started... dont know why either wanted each other
Because he can't go on loan any place else now that the transfer window for most Euro leagues is closed? He's got WCQ and the Olympics to prepare for. Going on loan to either MLS or Scandinavia would help him prepare for these. With apologies to Bungadiri who I'm sure will deem this inapplicable to YA, I wonder if MLS's views on loan deals has changed now that clubs have more control over international player acquisition. I doubt Derby would be interested in loaning him out until the end of 2008. But I imagine there might be a few MLS teams that would take him for the first 4-5 months of the season even if he wouldn't be around for the play off push.
Good question, but instead of wondering about Derby, I wonder more about Benny. I get the feeling that if you take Benny out of a CentralA/SAmerican style he simply isn't as effective. Either physically overmatched or not up to par mentally with the speed of play. Would love to see him come back to MLS. For his sake and the Nats.
Why not go out on loan to a Cola-ship side? He can get the playing time while not having to leave the country and show his wares for a permanent deal.
I don't think he can go on-loan to a cola-ship side at this point. if he wants to play before next season in England or most of Europe then he has to go to MLS or Scandinavia. Either of which would be a good move at this point.
I think the football league loan window is open until 22nd March, that's only if he'd want to stay in England of course. There is a whole list of clubs who have signed players that have simply not worked out. It happens so no point beating up Derby or the player.
I just read where West Brom is looking to loan Luke Moore from Aston Villa for the rest of the season, so the loan market isn't closed. Plus I've never had problems loaning players past transfer window in Worldwide Soccer Manager 2008.
The hysterics are tiresome. If he's good enough and has the proper professional attitude then he'll succeed, wherever he goes, even if it takes time, I'll repeat the example of Bobby Convey which I'm sure everyone's tired of reading. You and I and the posters of BigSoccer can't control Benny's career or place him other places or give him playing time, this isn't some virtual championship manager game. Me, I think the jury's still out, he hasn't even been at Derby for very long. Maybe there is some nefarious conspiracy to deprive Benny of "development time" but somehow I think that's just the paranoid bleating of four legged wool covered animals with anatomies that seem to drive the hicks from the sticks wild. I guess patience will never be a virtue of BigSoccer. Clocks ticking on when this same discussion with all the same variants begins about Matt Pickens at QPR.
Thought Benny was already 23. Wouldn't this make him ineligible for the '08 games? I know we can have 3 over 23's, but given his current situation it doesn't seem likely that he'd be one of the seniors chosen.
Ya know, the two MLS teams in the CCC, DC and Houston, both play a style that I think Benny could adapt to. And both clubs, especially Houston, are going to be losing players over the summer to US or other Nats duty. Unfortunately, I don't see him starting for either team. He won't start over DeRo and he won't start over Gallardo. But he can get minutes with each club for sure. Maybe Chivas...he's a SoCal boy, and they play an attractive style, and they'll have a fixture crunch during the SuperLiga.
The over 23's doesn't exist any more - only U23! According to the wikipedia: Benny Feilhaber - (born January 19, 1985 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil) which makes him eligible for the Olympics. (1985 or later)
Is this the same as the Soccer America interview? I can't get there for some reason. http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/qa-with-benny-feilhaber/#more-378
It does exist at the Olympic level, just not in qualifying. From the Olympic Soccer regs. document: "Men’s tournament 2. All players participating in the preliminary and fi nal competition of the Tournament shall be born on or after 1 January 1985. However, a maximum of three male players who do not meet this age limit may also be included in the offi cial list of players for the final competition." http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/regulations_olympics_beijing_2008_en_6198.pdf It's on page 15. Guess I sort of answered my own question there too.