FBI Kills Puerto Rican Nationalist

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MRschizoid21, Sep 30, 2005.

  1. MRschizoid21

    MRschizoid21 Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
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  2. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
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    I heard about a few days ago, kind of surprise there was no thread on it.
     
  3. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    You left off murderer and thief from the thread title. Other than that, yes there should be an investigation.
     
  4. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
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    Yeah this guy was a saint. Can't understand why the FBI went after him:

    For the links, I took this quote from the 3rd one, the first was in Spanish, the second was a joke at best, the third is the only one to show any journalistic integrity.

    As for PR, they do not want to be a state, I say let them become their own country. Enjoy independence. The US should pull up stakes and move out completely and let them become an independent nation.
     
  5. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Boy you really don't like the PR do you?
     
  6. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    cmon now, don't hold back. tell us how you really feel. :)
     
  7. chibchab

    chibchab Member

    Jul 8, 2002
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    Why when we have Oklahoma and/or reservations?

    At least PR has nice beaches and women...
     
  8. chibchab

    chibchab Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Jersey
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    Ummm, not...


    One of these for however many of yours...


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  9. chibchab

    chibchab Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Jersey
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    No, they're not all that ugly... ;^)
     
  10. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
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    It wasn't in secret. It was widely reported.



    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that only 2.5% of Puerto Ricans voted for independence in the last referendum on the subject (1998).



    Try reading more often. It does a reactionary big-mouth good.
     
  11. MRschizoid21

    MRschizoid21 Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
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    It was widely reported? I read the newspaper and watch the news everyday. I don't know where you live, but around here, it wasn't, buried underneath hurricane stories, John Roberts, etc.
     
  12. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
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    Had Puerto Rico been an independent country during the Cold War and the United States not given a damn about it, Castro would have waltzed in there and that would have been the end of their "independence."

    Puerto Rico should be greatful that it's part of the U.S.
     
  13. topcatcole

    topcatcole BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Yeah, kind of like they did in Haiti and the Dominican Republic and...:rolleyes:
     
  14. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    It's time for puerto rico and the US to piss or get off the pot. Either P.R. becomes a state or it goes it's own way. The current situation is not good for either party in the long run.
     
  15. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
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    How is it not good for either party? Puerto Ricans have a pretty slick arrangement; they are all citizens, can move freely to and from the US, or can re-locate permanently and legally -- without the hazardous boat ride -- to any state in the union.
     
  16. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002

    :rolleyes:

    Yeah thanks a lot for your generosity. Keep killing our countrymen especially on the anniversary of the Grito de Lares. It will be our Aztec sacrificing to the gods.












    Then again I can't be mad at a fellow UNAM supporter but still.
     
  17. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    The majority of Puerto Ricans don't want independence. By a lot. Statehood has a lot of support but it also isn't the majority who just want to remain how it is right now.

    A lot of people think he is a crook, the independist movement think he is a hero. Still the FBI killed him on the day of the anniversary of the independist revolt in Lares. Basically the thing most resembling a independence day for the movement. They went in, cut the light to the town, shot him, led him to bleed to death and then left. They didn't tell the local authorities anything and just basically told the government to screw themselves. Thus they created a martyr and united the independent movement, that had been fractured in squabbling and local grudges. They also may have revitalized the Macheteros and Ejerctio Popular Boricua, who were basically dead and only symbolical. Maybe that is what they wanted.
     
  18. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City

    Think of it as a couple living together, unmarried and unsure of whether or not they really want to get married to each other and unsure if they really want to leave each other. In the long run it's not a healthy relationship for either the USA nor Puerto Rico.
     
  19. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    The Puerto Rican people are capable of making this decision for themselves. Popular votes run evenly between statehood & the current commonwealth status, with independence a small third choice. While some political activists want their own country, the vast majority wish to maintain ties with the US, especially when they compare their situation to the rest of the Caribbean. The Macheteros are in the same junkpile at the Weatherman & the SLA.
     
  20. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
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    A lot of people "think" he was a crook? LOL. Yeah, armed robbery can have that affect on one's reputation.

    You forgot the part about him shooting one of the agents first and how his wife failed to let the FBI know it was safe to come in, but, yeah, other than that it's all the FBI's fault.

    So, now all 2.5% of the Puerto Rican population who want independence are united? Whoop-de-fukcing-do. He got what was coming to him.
     
  21. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
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    Except for the minor factual detail of neither party wanting to leave each other, you might have a point. A small majority want the status quo, and a large minority want closer ties.
     
  22. Gioca

    Gioca Member

    Jun 13, 2004
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    I support an independant Puerto Rico! Because I really don't want to associate with them anymore.
     

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