F---ing hooligans might just ruin games at De Toekomst... http://www.ajax-usa.com/news/2003-2004/hooligans-attack-young-feyenoord-players-at-de-toekomst.html We went to a game in February, and my 7yr old son sat literally at the sideline and watched a Young Ajax game. After the game, we approached players, and he had his picture taken with van Basten, Nicolea Mitea and van Gaal. It's possible that those experiences will now become a thing of the past, thanks to these idiots.
Absolutely disgusting! Shaquille mentioned this in the Feyenoord thread, but he didn't have all the details.
Disgraceful. Those clowns ought to be punished and have their game day privileges revoked for eternity.
there are low-lifes everywhere and violence between fans is to be expected, but every1 should follow some rules and anyone who is actually a part of the team should be off limits. hopefully there were many arrests.
Terrible. Lifelong bans and the paddywagon. Hopefully, with the season winding down, there won't be too many opportunities for retaliation and escalation.
Sick. I hope they ban them first from ever attending a game in Europe. Then prosecute them to the full extent of the law. What are the chances that Feyenoord's Legion will retailiate in some form or fashion?
no way i could blame them if they do decide to retaliate, but hopefully they are smarter and would go after the hooligan groups instead of actual employees of ajax.
Awful. Apparently they were going after Van Persie (as if he wasn't having the most awful year of his Feyenoord career anyway) but he was lucky to escape with just minor bruises, apparently thanks to Daniel de Ridder and John van 't Schip. And these people call themselves fans. Anyway I hope someone's got it all on camera so that they can be banned for life. And I dread to think what Feyenoord fans are planning at the moment. Thank God these people can't be bothered to follow our national team around.
In the beginning of may, young ajax and feyenoord have to play against eachother again for the cup final. If they are smart ajax doesn't bring any supporters with them to Kerkrade where they play. Young Ajax deserves to be taken out of the competition next season!!!
There's a lot of Ajax fans on here Roedi. Let me predict how they will react to that post of yours: "But fans of other clubs are just as bad", and "Look at what Groningen fans did to us".
no one should try playing this off. personally i dont think ajax should be banned, maybe ban them from having fans at their jong games for the next year or something. i dont know the history of the league tho and if a precedent (sp?) has been set in the past to give a punishment for such a thing.
you need to stop assuming what AJAX fans think or will say - this is TOTALLY different because they invaded the pitch and attacked players (not that players are more important humans than supporters, but you know what i mean) - i dont think the team should be banned, but i dont know the precedent - still, i think you'd be hard pressed to find any AJAX fans on here that will take this incident lightly or warmly - frankly, this is the kind of crap i'd expect from lazio fans or something... i am completely gutted and shamed that this happened in amsterdam
I think Ajax should forfeit the next match and remove themselves from the competition. That is the first thing that should happen. Young Ajax should be banned for 2004-2005 competiton and the club fined a heavy penalty. The book should be thrown at the attackers and nothing would be too much.
I'm not sure if it was or not, but that next match is and out of safety, security and doing the right thing - Ajax should forfeit. As for the penalty of missing the 2004-05 Cup, there has to be a punishment. Does it punish the fans - probably not, but there has to be a hard punishment for this. Very hard.
well if it doesn't punish fans... i dont know eddie, i could go with missing the competition next year, but they shouldnt have to forfeit a cup title match - after all, it was de ridder and van't schipt who came to the rescue - like i said though, i dont know the precedent if there is one
I'm not sure the players are worried about the competition anyway at this point. There is no easy clear cut answer - but the club needs to take a stand in this before the KNVB. By standing up to the thugs and saying "its not worth it" - maybe they'll understand, probably not as they are just giant idiots (all hooligans).
so you really think jong AJAX should be forced out of a cup final and the entire tournament for next season? big spanish senior clubs have gotten like two match home bans for attacks on players + plus factor in that youth matches won't have the same security in place... don't you think that's a bit punitive? i hate to sound like johan, but would you honestly feel the same way if it wasn't AJAX? or if it were the other way around?
yes. 1) Ajax needs to step up and pull out of the cup. This will avoid a quick revenge. 2) KNVB needs to knock them out of the cup to set a precedent that these actions will not be tolerated. Does the 2 match ban stop anything? No, make an example out of them, regardless if it was Feyenoord or PSV or Ajax. This action was one of the worst I have heard of in some time and if the KNVB does nothing but a tap on the wrist then they have no balls. From the reports this was premeditated and very violent, players careers and more importantly lives were at threatened and nothing short of a very severe punishment will be enough. You do not enter the pitch to attack players - NEVER!
1-as opposed to a slower revenge? you can't actually think a ban will stop feyenoord hooligans from responding 2-again i'm wondering how such a severe punishment to the youth club will make a damn bit of difference to the people who pull h*t like this... they obviously didn't care to begin with - the way to hurt the people who are responsible is through police action against those people who are responsible unless of course you are suggesting that AJAX is somehow responsible due to lack of security