fact - jmm is a rev

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by clearblue, Jan 17, 2003.

  1. clearblue

    clearblue New Member

    Aug 9, 2001
    Boys-

    Looks like Joe-Max will be teaming up with Twellman, Ralston, and Nowak etc.

    Revs have also been busy with some trades...a decent back-up to Adin.

    More later....
     
  2. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, clearblue hasn't been wrong a whole lot in the past, so I guess there's a pretty good chance that JMM is a Rev.

    It's kind of weird how this whole scenario has played itself out, though. Two weeks ago, I was told that there was no way the Revs could acquire JMM because they didn't have either the cap room or the allocation.

    Then, it changed to "Well, there's a slight chance, but I tend to doubt it."

    And lately, it's been, "If he signs with MLS, he'll probably end up here, but it's really no better than 50/50."

    Yesterday, I got a note saying that JMM was headed here and that Serna was on his way out, and I sort of dismissed it, but I guess there might be something to it.

    Sounds like today could be interesting, if there are trades in the works.
     
  3. Sean Donahue

    Sean Donahue Member

    Aug 31, 2001
    Massachusetts
    I still haven't heard anywhere that he signed with MLS, but I sure hope this news is true.
     
  4. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! Dreams do come true, in Rev fantasyland. Hopefully the trades involve Rooney & Serna. But, who is orchestrating the deals? Stevie Nicks? Renato? Sunil?

    All of the above?
     
  5. 103FAN

    103FAN New Member

    Aug 1, 2002
    Excited in 103-land

    Read the post this morning and we are psyched even if it's only a strong rumor! JMM is my oldest son's favorite player...he's the reason we started following the Revs to begin with!

    He is SO getting a sign in our corner!

    If Serna leaves as part of the trade that only sweetens the deal in my mind. Serna was NEVER a Rev!

    103 FAN
     
  6. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    I'm hearing different. Don't get your hopes up... yet, people.

    The Magpie
     
  7. Rev-eler

    Rev-eler Member

    Feb 13, 2000
    San Francisco
    damn!.....how i soooo wanted to hear nick sackewicz (sp?) start calling reanato "leader of the evil empire" in the bergin record or something.
    :D
     
  8. George Griffin

    George Griffin New Member

    Feb 18, 1999
    Prince Edward Island
    It's hard to believe just how many times this has gone back and forth---hell---even more than Gazza to Ray Hudsons "Good Old Boys Club". I'm guessing it true and the second part is Serna someplace for Cap space and an allocation.

    No question that JMM would help put fannies in the seats and that's in everyones interest. So they will find a way of making it happen. But then, my record for calling these things is lower than my batting average used to be and that was BAD.
     
  9. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Let's just say this: Moore stands a better than likely chance of returning to both MLS and the Revolution. Considering what both player and agent are looking for in terms of a contract, the Revolution will need to work with a third party (other MLS club) in order to pull off the move.

    Ask yourselves the following: What would the Revs need to get to Moore ahead of any other interested parties, or more importantly, how could the Revs flank the interest of said parties in an effort to get to Moore first?

    It's my understanding that Moore hasn't yet signed with the league. My guess is that his decision to hinges on whether or not the Revs can find a way, working with another MLS club, to ensure the Revs can get him.

    It is safe to say that if/when Moore signs with the league he'll end up in New England, so that being said, Clearblue is pretty well accurate in describing "JMM is a Rev" as fact provided the league can sign him.

    Looks like there's going to be a lot of movement with respect to the draft today.

    The Magpie
     
  10. jomo9501

    jomo9501 Member

    Aug 2, 2000
    Easton, Ma.
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    trade rumor

    Chris Bergin is reporting that a trade is in the works for Serna to go to dallas. Doesn't Dallas have an allocation that we can use? Could Dallas be this other club?
     
  11. chayes

    chayes New Member

    Feb 29, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Its pretty clear that any deal is going to have to be with Colorado.

    Neither DC nor the Metros have the cap room to take on Serna and Colorado is the only other team with an allocation.

    I don't see how Serna fits in Colorado though with Carrieri and Spencer up top.
     
  12. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *** SPECULATION ***

    Serna to Dallas.

    Vaca to MetroStars.

    JMM to New England.
     
  13. I imagine the scenario is Serna & #9 pick to Dallas, Dallas' #4 pick & something thrown in to Colorado & Colorado allocation & Countess to Revs. Discuss, I'm off to some dental work.
     
  14. patrickdavila

    patrickdavila Member

    Jan 13, 1999
    Easton, PA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dallas does not have an allocation. They would have to trade for one. The talk last week was that Dallas was going to trade Vaca to Metro to get an allocation that they'd use to sign Stewart. The only other team with an allocation is DC.
     
  15. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    trade

    It doesn't seem to make sense from a Dallas perspective. Isn't it much more likely that you guys traded straight up with Colorado, who actually has an allocation?

    We don't forwards: Kreis, Rhine, Cerritos, Johnson.
    Colorado deperately needs a target forward.

    I find it unlikely that we're trading you Countess. With Jordan in Portugal, he is the only keeper on our roster at this moment.
     
  16. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Serna to Dallas.

    Vaca to MetroStars.

    JMM to New England


    For the benefit of our Metro guest:

    Metrostars trade their allocation for Vaca.
    Dallas selects Moore with their allocation.
    Dallas then trade Moore to Revs for Serna and picks.

    The Magpie
     
  17. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would tend to agree with the Magpie. The league isn't going to just let us have him for old times sake. We would need to clear cap and get an allocation, or broker some deal where we'd give something up to get him.

    Would Colorado take Serna for the allocation? Metros have an allocation, but no cap room. Could we keep Serna and Moore, and still have Nowak and Twellman functioning at the top of their game? I think that would be too crowded, so it looks like Serna would be the odd man out if we took JMM.

    Dallas doesn't have an allocation. Remember, they were thinking of trading Vaca to the Metros so they could sign Earnie Stewart.

    So who could use Serna and has both a foreign slot and cap room to accommodate him, and if they don't have an allocation, what could they give to one of the clubs who needs one? Someone (LA?)could give the Mutts some mid-level picks for their other allocation that they can't use, then they'd trade the allocation to us for Serna. Does LA meet the foreign/cap criteria? Believe it or not, they might be able to do this, even if it means getting rid of a mid-salary player (hmmmm, maybe we could get Ezra from them too?)

    The plot thickens. I can't wait for Li'l Frank's in-depth analysis on this. Maybe he can throw in some lyrics from Cesaria Evora along with his special 8-page supplement "Tribute to Wanderley Luxumburgo" coming next week.

    Tom
     
  18. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Personally I'd rather trade with Colorado: they could really use another forward in Serna.

    The Magpie
     
  19. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Are you sure that you didn't just get back with a head full of nitrous?
     
  20. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wouldn't it be a bit of overkill for the Rapids to pick up Diego when they've already got Carrieri and Spencer on their roster? I mean, if I'm Tim Hankinson, I'm not thinking forward is my biggest need.
     
  21. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    Yikes. The Revs would likely need an allocation to get Joe (fat chance that, like Grimandi, he'll be deemed a "discovery"). Sounds like Serna would almost certainly be on the block. Serna may not be everyone's cup of tea as a lockeroom presence, but he's always and everywhere been a gamer. Put it this way: when picking teams, the first guy you choose isn't always going to be someone you'd want to marry your sister. Trading much beyond Serna - and I'm thinking a draft pick - would be a mistake.

    Joe Max is a great player and seems to be a good guy. But unless his form is much better than I've been able to observe from U.S. nats games and a few scattered EPL games (primarily in 2001), he's not worth an MLS all star (Serna) and a draft pick.

    I hope the Revs do this right. For the first time in years the Revs have the framework of a solid team and some flexibility to invest in the future (i.e. youth/draft picks). I'd hate to see them blow it out of sentimentality or some speculative box-office benefit.

    Just my opinion...
     
  22. Rev-eler

    Rev-eler Member

    Feb 13, 2000
    San Francisco
    this is mls. who knows...if the league signs him, we may not have a choice right?
     
  23. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both of which are like 5'4". They need a target up there.

    Also, Hankinson has a history of trying to reclaim talented foreign head cases-Diallo, Valderamma, etc.

    I'm not saying it's the most logical thing in the world, just more logical than Serna to Dallas.
     
  24. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know about that. If I'm Dallas, I'd like the chance to pair up Kreis and Serna - because after the last two years, I'm looking to dump Cerritos.

    And I think Rhine and Johnson are nice players to have available on the bench, but either would be among the worst starting forwards in the league. That, and Kreis is MUCH more effective when opposing defenses can't focus on him. I think a healthy Diego Serna is EXACTLY the kind of player Dallas needs.
     
  25. Blathist

    Blathist New Member

    Aug 21, 2001
    Foxboro
    Just ruin our fun why don't ya.
     

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