F52: USA v. Netherlands, 7 July

Discussion in 'Women's World Cup' started by soccernutter, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    The Dutch frontline will be younger than the US' currently is in four years, especially Miedema and Beerensteyn. They weren't at their best this tournament, but I'd be a bit surprised if the Netherlands bring a significantly different frontline next World Cup.
     
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  2. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Member

    Jul 18, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    What do we have in our talent pool other than Pugh?

    Also can we get a new LB and put Dunn on the front? Or let Horan play the 2nd striker role?
     
  3. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    I don't know. Maybe Lynn Williams gets another crack. Don't know what's going on with Ashley Sanchez. Dunn and Horan are potential future options for the front line.
     
  4. Let's face it. Next year in the Olympics it will be a contest among these four semi finalists plus Japan.
     
  5. Berchtesgaden

    Berchtesgaden Member+

    May 18, 2011
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I am all for Germany getting a fifth star on the men’s side. That would bring enough balance for me :)
     
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  6. Weltmann

    Weltmann Member

    Sep 9, 2012
    With Jogi ??? :D
     
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  7. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I thought Ellis wanted Horan to be the center of the US game in this WC though? What happened
     
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  8. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    Which is exactly my point. What you see today isn’t what MOST teams will look like in four years. While the USA will look different, what I saw in this cup suggests everyone else will have to retool or get left behind. That includes the Dutch.

    In four years the US front line will be younger that the US are now or probably the Dutch might be. There isn’t any indication there will be a drop off. And the USA has traditionally gotten a fair share of its goals from converted mids, including everyone but Morgan this cup.

    There are 2-3 players including Lavelle who will just be hitting their stride from the current squad and a half dozen still wet behind the ears who will running up their backs.
     
  9. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    I'm not supporting your point. The Dutch are a top 10 team, and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't look all that different in four years. None of their current forwards are what I would call aging yet.
     
  10. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    I'm saying the current Dutch frontline will be younger in four years than the US frontline was this tournament. Not making any comment about potential new players.
     
  11. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    they will have to get past the group stage, won’t they?

    South Korea, Mexico, and Sweden wasn’t exactly the group of Death.
     
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  12. FC RASTA

    FC RASTA Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CONGRATS WORLD CHAMPIONS USA. Well earned CUP!
     
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  13. thegamesthatrate

    Jan 9, 2007
    Lavelle, Ertz or Dunn. I continue to be astonished that a player who (a) did not play all seven games and (b) was not among the four best players on the winning team in the final won the Golden Ball.
     
  14. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sam Mewis happened.
     
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  15. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    #415 Ethan Frank, Jul 7, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2019
    Maybe leave out a) entirely because neither Lavelle or Dunn played seven matches.
     
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  16. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    ....and singlehandedly scored every goal in two KO round matches.


    And they award the golden Ball to the player with the most goals. If you think kicks from the Mark are easy, ask England, Australia, and Canada.
     
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  17. thegamesthatrate

    Jan 9, 2007
    No, they award the Golden Boot to the player with the most goals. That one Rapinoe won according to the rules.
     
  18. thegamesthatrate

    Jan 9, 2007
    Fair enough. But knockout rounds carry more weight.
     
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  19. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Alright, I'll give you that. New a) did not play a knockout match (pretty big one to miss at that).
     
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  20. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    FIFA official highlights of the game:

     
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  22. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
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    Same way that you missed she had game winners ( and only goals) two of the KO matches. AND the game winner in the final ., so 3 out of the four KO round matches. There isn’t another player in the Cup that came close.

    And she got the Golden Boot precisely because the had 3 more assists than White and had 6 goals and three assist in 62 fewer minutes than Morgan.

    It probably helped that the fourth tiebreaker with Morgan was goals not scored against Thailand:)
     
  23. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of the players you mentioned played all 7 games. They all sat at least one.

    The only field players to play in all 7 games were Dahlkemper and the two players who mostly came in as subs, Lloyd and Press.
     
  24. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    And all the credits to coach Jill Ellis, US did struggle a bit in a period but she really got them on track this year and for the World Cup :thumbsup:
     
  25. JanBalk

    JanBalk Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Uppsala, Sweden
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Number of games scored in would actually make a pretty nice tiebreaker, and slightly reduce the impact of scoring lots against one not so good team.
     
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