extra SI for the fire

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by jmeissen0, Nov 14, 2004.

  1. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    SI's move to four for next year

    so who will they be?


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/soccer/11/14/bc.soc.mls.rosters.ap/


     
  2. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    maybe another if AW either gets his GC or he and/or Dipsy move on.

    Reserve league is starting next season too.
     
  3. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    Damani will be counted as an SI next year so that's one that we are 'losing' so to speak.
     
  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Andy Williams has his green card I believe. Samuel Cabellero does as well, or has residency, or something. Boucicout is a TI or youth, not sure which. That leaves Ralph, Dipsy and Herron. Some say Dipsy is gone, or will be. That leaves us with two spots. I'm happy to keep the Dip if his salary is small. He's been good in spots and has scored some important goals.
     
  5. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    TI and YI are the same thing now. You're either under 24 and a TI or over 24 and an SI. Or you have a green card. The Cab has his GC.
     
  6. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    I think Dipsy benefits the most from the extra SI slot. I think he was near gone with only 3 SI's but with the extra slot we may have room to keep him (if they want to).
     
  7. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    plus moving to 28 roster spots doesn't hurt either.
     
  8. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    Not exactly true. Nunez was called a JI and Stephenson, Dorman, and Gilberto Flores were both TI and developmental (same thing as old JI). Some "TI's" were roster protected this year.
     
  9. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    now, meaning as of next season.
     
  10. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    did the press release really say that? I'm not entirely sure yet. though I think this year the four players I mentioned may have counted against the 20 man limit. so my guess is limit 3 to team (5 for expansion teams), with teams able to place those 23 or under on the roster protected list.
     
  11. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the roster size increase as well as SI spots, the Fire stand to make some bigtime improvements. Figure on at least one new SI coming in (AW and SC having greencards), possibly two. A YSA, the Beasley allocation (could go towards an SI), a couple good draft picks, etc. Should prove a very exciting off season for the Men in Red.
     
  12. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    May not be long to wait. I expect we'll be involved in a lot Monday, then the draft Friday, and news before TGiving or Christmas.
     
  13. Tyler66

    Tyler66 New Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    Massachusetts
    Also note that Sumed Ibrahaim will be a SI next year. :p
     
  14. Greddy

    Greddy Member

    Jun 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very good news. Well, maybe not for the Metros.

    Also,
    That, along with the rumors about a Marsch trade can only mean one thing... Guardiola!!!! ;)
     
  15. Ron Keller

    Ron Keller New Member

    Jul 9, 2004
    Shampoo-Banana
    "... Bahahahahaha... Oh, crap, that gets me every time. OK, OK, Focus! This time with a straight face. Let's take it from 'something to do with Chivas...', OK?"

    Did anyone else notice that they were pretty vague about the salary cap?
     
  16. dlm_Fire

    dlm_Fire Member

    Aug 16, 2002
    Chicago
    The expansion teams getting extra TI spots pisses me off.

    The thing I hated most about the idea of Chivas was the idea that they would try to bring in effectively a mexican squad....but folks argued (seemingingly correctly) that they would compete within the same rules as everyone else.


    Except they won't.

    So it pisses me off.
     
  17. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    But both of them get the same treatment. and they are PROVISIONAL spots. They will be revoked in two years' time. The expansion teams also won't have their pick of the developmental rosters of the other MLS teams as they are automatically protected. Seems this is a fair tradeoff.
     
  18. dlm_Fire

    dlm_Fire Member

    Aug 16, 2002
    Chicago
    Yah, both the expansion franchises get the same treatment, but both of them get treatment different than the rest of the league.

    Not that I claim to be an expert on the subject, but I don't recall the Fire or the Fusion having roster restrictions any different than the rest of the league.

    So no, Chivas (and SLC) are not competing under the same rules as everyone else.
     
  19. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    Teams were also not allowed to automatically protect their young players when the Fire and Fusion came in too. I don't understand what is a) so hard to understand about it b) what the big deal is when Transitional salaries count under the cap and probably won't be able to attract two additional high caliber players than the other clubs have access to.

    Adcitionally, there's c) the slots can be traded (and if i recall correctly expansion clubs get more discovery options provisionally too to help build their roster) so If the Fire wanted they could also have 5 TIs too - or more. Any club could.
     
  20. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    besides... these rules will go into effect for all the new teams after slc and chivas...

    people going to bitch then about them getting too much of an advantage... probably not since they aren't chivas
     
  21. dlm_Fire

    dlm_Fire Member

    Aug 16, 2002
    Chicago
    I didn't say it was an advantage or not, I said it's different than everyone else, which it is, and that bugs me.
     

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