Expectations for the Hex

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by DHC1, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Bradley, McKennie, Morris, Altidore, and Arriola started in the front 6 in the Gold Cup final. Very little in the way of creativity.
     
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  2. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vancuver had a player from S. America that went to Mexico. Vancover threatened to take it to court but worked out something and basically let him go for pennies on the dollar (sorry can't remember his name). The one from FC Dallas I remember well. Fabian Castillo was a very fast dribbling machine. FC Dallas wanted him to finish the year and they had a deal worked out to send him to Club America I think. He didn't want to wait and instead high tailed it to Turkey. More threats and blather but he never came back. If a player really wants to leave and especially if they are on their options on near MLS can't or won't really do much. Heck most of us think Long was never the same after missing a chance to go to England. There's an art to selling at the right time.
     
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  3. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    #253 DHC1, Mar 25, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2020
    whom do you consider creative? Lletget?

    again, our attack will be driven by Pulisic, Reyna, dest and the contributors being morris, Jozy, zardes, McKennie, and adams.

    We can create via defensive pressure and dead balls (where we have a chance to be truly elite).

    to me the question is how do we stop Jiminez and his compatriots? I’d rather have long than Miazga just to cover for Brooks and have adams as a shield in front.

    I’d like to push a bit higher than a low block but understand the thought process.

    TL;DR we’re not going to match Mexico’s creativity but we are far more athletic and rangy and should use that to our advantage. We happen to have more skills than prior versions of the USMNT too.
     
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  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Saucedo, Pulisic, Reyna, Holmes, Lletget, Pomykal, Ferreira.

    US hasn't shown any kind of consistent ability to create offense through defensive pressure. That's been almost as big a pipe dream as dominating teams through possession.
     
  5. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    When have we applied consistent defensive pressure? Not in the past 3-4 years - I think that was a function of building around Bradley as a CM.

    our historical success was predicated on defensive pressure and integrity mixed with Reyna and a lethal counter-attack player.
     
  6. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Are we really projecting Bofo in the same category as the others mentioned? SMH. Can’t wait for this virus to die.
     
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  7. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I lived in Mexico City for 4 years. The bolded is always true with regards to the Mexican national team.
     
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  8. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    unfortunately, recent results bolster their case.
     
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  9. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Mexico got blasted 4-0 by the last good team they faced.
     
  10. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Recent USMNT vs MexNat results.
     
  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    bald guys fighting over a comb
     
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  12. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    713
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    unfortunately your anecdotal experience does jibe with "los llameritos"
     
  13. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pardon, but I don't understand the reference.
     
  14. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Options on the right wing are Yedlin, Boyd, Arriola, Holmes, Bofo, Mueller, Morris, Pulisic, Reyna, Finlay.
     
  15. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're projecting Bofo over the goobers like Arriola. The side opposite Morris has been underperforming for a looooong time...
     
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  16. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Why? Long would be one of the last players I'd expect to do that.
     
  17. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Long has excellent pace and range. Hasn't been in form though.

    As Dave said--

    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/the-aaron-long-journey-from-usl-to-the-usmnt/
     
  18. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    he’s fast and can sweep up anything that gets by Brooks. His deficiencies in ball handling dovetail with brook’s strengths so there’s a balance there.
     
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  19. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Long is inexperienced and unproven. His speed can be useful in "recovery" defending, but he doesnt read the game and anticipate plays well at all.

    Miazga is a much more calming influence than Long. If you want a more mobile partner, then Alvarado is a more experienced option.
     
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  20. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I’d be happy to re-look at Alvarado as a partner for brooks but I don’t think of him as a defensively focused speed partner.

    we don’t need a calming influence as a partner for brooks - we need a CD partner that bolsters the defensive side as that’s brook’s developmental area.
     
  21. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Long has 17 caps, so isn't inexperienced.

    Tough to claim Miazga as a calming influence when his biggest statistical weakness is in the area of 'concentration', calculated as frequency of errors leading to shots on goal. His other statistical weakness is in tackling.

    In addition, depth behind Brooks is important, given his injury and form history.
     
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  22. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
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  23. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hasn’t Reyna been playing on the wing?
     
  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
     
  25. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    The games I saw at Dortmund he seemed to be playing more of a #10 role. He has had pretty free roam.
     

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