Expansion USL1 2008

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by Luis_Rancagua, Sep 10, 2007.

  1. Luis_Rancagua

    Luis_Rancagua Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    How many teams are expected to be added to the USL1 for 2008???
  2. IceFunk

    IceFunk Member

    Oct 22, 2005
    Beaverton, Oregon
    no teams as of now.

    Victoria BC in 2009 though.
  3. Gooner_for_Life

    Oct 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish someone would throw their hat into the ring man. Things are not solid in the USL1 right now. Cali is looking doubtful for next year. Miami is shaky at best, no crowd, just changed coaches. I heard rumor Rochester is losing money as fast as they can. Finally Seattle might be leaving for pastures anew in the MLS. My personal opinion i think we will lose Cali and Seattle . Miami and Rochester will stick around but that still drops us down to 10 teams. Miami still might lose out if they have another season like this past one. So if Miami drops and we pick up Victoria that keeps us at 10 teams. Not bad but still not great. Maybe the USL needs to look at picking up an official airline sponsor. :D

    Luckily the USL2 is doing well with a couple of expansion candidates for next year. As well i heard rumor that the USL is looking at a USL2 west.

    Maybe the USL should look at lowering the requirements for USL1 and upping them a bit for USL2. Try to find some middle ground and perhaps look at making a consolidated league.
  4. Lawman

    Lawman New Member

    Oct 17, 2006
    We are going to see some change in the coming years with USL-1, but we should not be concerned. there are a number of teams that will come and some that might go, I have taken a interest with the leagues expansion and this it what I see.

    Possibly Leaving

    Seattle (MLS? Tacoma to USL-1 maybe)
    Victory (League is looking for new ownership as well as www.savethevictory.org

    Possibly Joining

    Carolina Dymano PDL (Rumored jump to USL-1)
    Fresno Fuego PDL (Rumored jump to USL-1)
    River Plate PR (Owners of the team want into USL-1)
    Syracuse (Currently in talks with the league strong possibility)
    Crystal Palace Baltimore (GM says he wants to make the jump to USL-1)


    Victoria (Will play a season in PDL and will then make the jump):cool:
    El Paso Patriots (New GM says they will be in USL-1 in 09)

    To me the future does not look that bleak.:)

  5. Lawman

    Lawman New Member

    Oct 17, 2006
    Oh and by the way Miami here to stay. They are doing all the right things in the head office to build a much better fan base.
  6. Gooner_for_Life

    Oct 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting stories. Do you by chance have any links to news items that can confirm any of this as i have only heard of victoria and the river plate interest.
  7. IceFunk

    IceFunk Member

    Oct 22, 2005
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Miami has also stated that despite the ************ attedance turnout, they are in for the long-run.
  8. Lawman

    Lawman New Member

    Oct 17, 2006
    Ok I will have a crack at this.


    El Paso-Direct quote from the new Patriots GM in the Menace thread on this site

    CP Baltimore- In a interview today Pete Medd GM said in the next few years he would like to get CP Baltimore up to USL-1, sorry no link.


    Carolina- As I said rumor, but where there is smoke there is usually fire.


    Victory- Tim Holt sent a e-mail today to the Save the victory folks stating that they are looking for new ownership.

    I like to think of myself as an optimist, but with the sport being hot right now I think that allot of these things will come true.
  9. Gooner_for_Life

    Oct 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the links, lots of interesting stuff. It will be exciting to see what comes of it in the next couple of years.
  10. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO they should when considering expansion groups, they should be using the Railhawks as a model. I think 12 months is the ideal time for a lead up for your first season. It gives you enough time to put everything in place and to actually start selling tickets and sponsorship. It would be great if they could get more teams out west, but only if they can do it right.
  11. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the USL1-2 i would like to see in 20 years:

    First: Seattle, Portland, Carolina, & Atlanta all in MLS by then.

    1. LA Galaxy
    2. Colorado Rapids
    3. Real Salt Lake
    4. Chivas USA
    5. Houston Dynamo
    6. FC Dallas
    7. Kansas City Wizards
    8. San Jose Earthquakes
    9. Seattle Rangers
    10. Portland Wolves
    11. Las Vegas Outlaws
    12. Vancouver Mounties

    1. New York Red Bulls
    2. New England Revolution
    3. D.C. United
    4. Columbus Crew
    5. Chicago Fire
    6. Toronto FC
    7. Atlanta Locomotives
    8. Saint Louis United
    9. Philadelphia Independence
    10. Florida Athletics (out of Tampa Bay)
    11. Cleveland Stokers
    12. Carolina Airborne

    1. Minnesota Thunder
    2. Charleston Battery
    3. Puerto Rico Islanders
    4. Miami FC
    5. Rochester Rhinos
    6. Montreal Impact
    7. San Diego Pumas
    8. New York International
    9. Phoenix Diablos
    10. San Antonio Generals
    11. Milwaukee Rampage
    12. Tulsa Roughnecks
    13. Detroit Motors
    14. Nashville Metros
    15. Pittsburgh Champions
    16. Orlando Hotshots
    >17. Sacramento Saints
    >18. El Paso Patriots

    USL2 (might want to split this in North/South or USL2/USL3)
    *1. Charlotte Eagles
    *2. Richmond Kickers
    3. Harrisburg City Islanders
    4. Western Mass Pioneers
    5. Cincinnati Kings
    6. Wilmington Hammerheads
    7. Crystal Palace Baltimore
    8. Bermuda Hogges
    9. River Plate Puerto Rico
    10. Real Maryland
    11. Virginia Beach Mariners
    12. Memphis Rogues
    13. Alabama Hearts
    14. Indianapolis Racers
    15. Louisville Mustangs
    16. Hartford Colonials
    17. Syracuse Salty Dogs
    18. Providence Minutemen
    19. Ottawa Fury
    20. New Orleans United
    21. Fort Lauderdale Fusion
    22. Jacksonville Conquistadores
    23. Vermont Voltage
    24. Buffalo Knights

    *1. Fresno Fuego
    *2. Victoria B.C.
    3. Edmonton Drillers
    4. Winnipeg Falcons
    5. Calgary Blizzard
    6. Albuquerque Aztecs
    7. Austin Lightning
    8. Laredo Heat
    9. (Fort Worth) Lone Star F.C.
    10. Tucson Scorpions
    11. Oklahoma City Chiefs
    12. Boise Strykers
    13. Omaha Stallions
    14. Wichita Cowboys
    15. Riverside Cobras
    16. Corpus Christi Rodeo
    17. Des Moines Menace
    18. Tacoma Tide
    19. Yakima Reds
    20. Bakersfield Brigade

    Playoff for promotion. West1 v. East 2, East1 v. West2

    ***Basically, this idea is for USL2 to swallow the PDL, NPSL, & PCSL. And these teams youth academies play each for the development aspect of the league.
  12. Lawman

    Lawman New Member

    Oct 17, 2006
    Latest on El Paso

    Alan Oatsvall, the man who led the Des Moines Menace organization during its run past El Paso to the Premier Development League championship in 2005, will now lead the Patriots, hopefully to the same lofty spot atop the United States’ largest soccer league.

    Oatsvall has a strong history successfully managing clubs in a way that allows them to produce at the highest level. The Patriots are banking on that ability as the team continues to pursue a return to the United Soccer League’s First Division, and to make more inroads into what is already a good soccer city.
  13. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    Vancouver Mounties? Vancouver would never enter the MLS under any name but the Whitecaps.
  14. thanatos80

    thanatos80 New Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Burien, WA
    Very true! And I won't EVEN get into the Seattle name, already a couple of threads about that over on BS's MLS expansion board. But, any team playing in Tampa would NEVER call themselves Florida, they would be Tampa Bay.
  15. sounderfan

    sounderfan New Member

    Apr 6, 2003
    Tacoma Tide will not consider USL-1 unless they are directly involved with Seattle MLS in a 'farm team' arrangement.

    Even if that happens, it won't be before 2010.

    This from the Tide GM.
  16. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I think the general practice of tryng to foreshadow widespread expansion is kind of silly on its own, the random picking of nicknames is even weirder.
  18. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    don't think too much about the names i picked out. I was bored, and was trying to come up with new names in case the team HAD TO rebrand.
  19. Taoism

    Taoism Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Winnipeg, MB, Canada
    Well, given that there promotion in your setup, I will accept Winnipeg starting in USL-2! ;)

    The only niggle I would have is with 20 teams per division more than 2 should go up/down. Probably 4 would be good. Top 3 get promoted and 4-7 do a playoff (like Cola Championship).

  20. walkingcity

    walkingcity Member

    May 17, 2007
    Boston, MA
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the group in Syracuse that was pushing for USL has gone bankrupt
  21. wufc

    wufc Member

    May 1, 2005
    UC Irvine
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, better they go bankrupt now than if they got a team.
  22. AGF Aarhus

    AGF Aarhus Member

    Union Berlin
    Apr 7, 2001
    Union Berlin
    And look at that Seattle name. That's even better than Houston 1860 in terms of pissing off half your fanbase before the team ever takes the field.
  23. alexp92

    alexp92 Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    i like how you think with tampa;), but put cleveland in the usl and add montreal to the mls
  24. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA

    :eek::eek:! Are you mad??????? It's ROWDIES or NOTHIN'!!!! :D.
  25. Cleveland City

    Cleveland City New Member

    Apr 11, 2007

    This might make it interesteing for the USL1 & USL2

    I read a few months a go that the MLS is looking at Montreal, Vancouver and a team in the northwest Possibly Seattle in the future.

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