Expansion - Looking ahead to November (Crew version)

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by hangthadj, Jul 14, 2004.

  1. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    November expansion Draft. We get to protect 12 players. Who are yours?

    Mine in no order

    Busch
    Cunningham
    Marshall
    Buddle
    Martino
    Simon
    Hejduk
    Akwari
    Fraser
    Wingert
    Herdsman
    St Dunc
     
  2. crewnerd

    crewnerd New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    OHIO
    To be honest, I had a hard time coming up with 12 worth saving, I'd keep Paule instead of Oughton:

    Busch
    Fraser
    Marshall
    Elliot
    Martino
    Hejduk
    Paule
    Cunningham
    Buddle
    Wingert
    Akwari
    Herdsman
     
  3. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Busch
    Hejduk
    Akwari
    Marshall
    Wingert
    Elliott
    Sutton
    Martino
    Testo
    Cunningham
    Buddle
    Herdsman

    Fraser's 38 next year, Oughton is a good RB but not worth saving, Scott Not seen enough of, but he'd be the first one I'd protect after the first round was over.

    I loved what I've seen out of Sutton and I think he's the RM of the future, same thing with Testo but on the left. Herdsman is too athletic to give up.
     
  4. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I struggled with Fraser, but I think he has at least one more year the way he's played so far this year.
     
  5. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He might have 1 more year, but nobody is going to draft him because of his age. Might as well not protect him and use it for somebody else. The chances of Fraser getting picked seem so remote that I would feel safe leaving him unprotected.
     
  6. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I disagree, if left unprotected I am sure he'd be our first to go.
     
  7. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    WHAT??? With Denton available, no way
     
  8. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure he's a great veteran leader, but I would prefer to bring in somebody who will be around a little longer. What's the point of using the precious picks from the expansion draft on somebody who won't contribute for more than 1 year.

    Maybe you could argue that Fraser would make enough of a mentor-esque impact in that 1 year to merit his selection. I'm rather skeptical of that.
     
  9. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I think people may look what he's done to mentor our team and thibnk its worth it. Look at the difference in our D this year.
     
  10. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busch, Marshall, Herdsmann, Akwari, Elliot, Martino, Hejduk, Buddle, Cunningham, Testo, Scott, Wingert

    I think you can get away w/ not protecting certain players, along with Fraser, I think you can do the same with Duncan, Sutton, and maybe Jordan. I think there will be enough options out there that Utah would skip over those 4. I can't imagine Chivas would pick up any of them either, as I don't think St. Dunc is remotely Hispanic. :D
     
  11. 10 fan

    10 fan New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    United States
    Can we leave our coach unprotected?
     
  12. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was hoping that Checketts would like a good and experienced coaching team and take Andrulis and Warzycha at the same time.
     
  13. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why keep Elliot and not Paule?

    I'd rather have Paule.
     
  14. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    You really like Paule, don't you. I just think Elliott offers more now.
     
  15. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, Ross is usually pretty solid throughout each match, and I have come to respect that. Elliot's decent, but in the lineup that I see us having, Elliot's not an effective enough enforcer to get the job done. I don't see him on the wing, so that'd leave the middle for him, right? Well, K-Mart's the offensive mid, and I just don't see him as an adequate guy backing Martino up.

    Also, in my opinion, he's a better destributor of the ball when he's on his game.

    But I could be wrong. :)
     
  16. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if by some miracle the Crew FO came up with a strategy:

    Don't use allocations now, because then we must protect them in the expansion draft

    You think they would think of something like that?
     
  17. Own Goal Hat-Trick

    Jul 28, 1999
    ColoRADo
    can we insist that they take denton? or better yet, have them trade us a discovery pick or allocation or something in exchange for denton? maybe? please?
     
  18. Brook

    Brook BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 13, 2001
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Get rid of Denton. Keep Oughton. At least Dunc shows alot of heart out there.
     
  19. MFRONE

    MFRONE Member+

    Jul 24, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    We're probably going to get Sanneh, so keep him in mind as well.
     
  20. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Another angle to look at with this expansion draft is at the players that you don't protect, which of those players would be taken first and which player would you would then post-protect.(Not the players you want gone) Keep in mind only 3 players can be taken.

    MY Unprotected:
    Jordan
    Oughton(SI)
    Traeger
    Fraser
    Denton
    Paule
    Barclay
    Lagos
    Scott
    Ritch
    Mais

    I'm thinking if any player was going to be taken first from this list it would be Erik Scot(that is if he is signed from his loan) Young, Creative, and a CR NAT.

    I would then protect Fraser

    Then I'm thinking Lagos would be taken and I would protect Paule

    Then maybe Denton because left sided players are hard to come by even if they suck nuts.
     
  21. crewcrazy17

    crewcrazy17 Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Medina
    MLS' website says that a team can protect 12 Senior roster players. To me that reads that you can protect as many P-40 and Developmental players as you want. With that in mind I would pick these 12 to protect.

    Busch
    Martino
    Hejduk
    Herdsman
    Wingert
    Buddle
    Cunnigham
    Elliot
    Fraser
    Oughton
    Paule
    Testo

    I don't think they will resign Scott as he hasn't seen any playing time. Lagos hasn't done much and he has a bum leg. Jordan hasn't even sniffed the field. Denton...what is there to say really. Maiz needs to retire.
     
  22. CrewSchmack

    CrewSchmack Member

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Mar 3, 1999
    Delaware, OH
    I say we cut somebody, and place Andrulis in our lineup for the last month of the season as an emergency fill in.

    Then we make sure he isn't protected.

    With any luck someone will take him.
     
  23. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    The thing with that is with as much playing time as Marshall and Akwari are both getting this year they probably won't be P-40 after this year. So the Crew will have to protect them. Not that anyone would want to protect these guys, but Ritch and Traeger are both off DP next year too. I think Sutton will be a DP and Barclay(83K) will still be getting paid more then Marshall(68K) as a P-40 sitting on the bench. What a waste of good money Barclay is.
     
  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Barkley gets paid well over twice what Jon Busch gets. Ridiculous.
     
  25. Freddy Garcia Lives

    Feb 28, 2003
    Tumwater, WA
    Your all wrong, we will protect Mais, due to his contributions to the team this year. Good FO move.
     

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