Expanded FIFA Club World Cup: Tournament News & General Discussion [R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That's the champion of post season MLS Cup Play-offs, not the league. Supporters Shield is much closer of winner of national league format that other leagues have.

    There's no bias in this as some suggested, Miami is the logical team based on previous cups, to play the opening game.
     
  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    There is a precedence for this. For the 2000 Club WC, a spot would be awarded to the 1998 Campeonato Brasileiro, and back then the Brasiliero had a playoff system after its regular season. The champion being, of course, the winner of the playoff. Just like it is in MLS today.

    So, before saying we are ignorant, maybe check your history.
     
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  3. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Except there was only 21 games played in that league without titulero, which Corinthians, also won...
     
  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #1029 Nico Limmat, Dec 6, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2024
    The main league title is the MLS Cup. Ask any MLS fan.

    Chances are high that the LA Galaxy will once again miss out on the CWC in rather strange circumstances. First the 2001 edition in Spain got cancelled after they qualified, and now the very questionable selection of the host. But given all the rule bending that took place for the Gals early in MLS it's hard to feel sorry for them. :D

    Clubs don't have to release players for youth tournaments at all. Be it at the FIFA or confederation level. In any case, FIFA already clarified that participating clubs don't have to release players. Even for the senior team. So Concacaf national teams will have to do without CWC players for the Gold Cup.
     
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  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    23. But what does that have to do with anything? You wrote "Miami is the logical team based on previous cups". AFAIK, there is only 1 other situation like this before and it went the opposite way of what you claim with that statement.

    The bottom line is, the MLS champion is considered the winner of the MLS Cup playoff. These is no ambiguity. Its just a fact.
     
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  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #1031 Nico Limmat, Dec 6, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2024
    Agreed. It all seems very engineered just days before MLS Cup. They made sure it's a fait accompli.

    I'm not a MLS fan and even I am sick of Messi mania.

    So you have Miami - Al Ahly as the opening match. On one hand, you have arguably the biggest club outside Europe and South America in prestige and renommée. Founded in 1907 over a century ago, with 12 CAF Champions League titles and many more (official) international titles. They deserve every moment in a bigger spotlight.

    Then you have Miami. To date they have won a contrived, god awful excuse for a tournament (Leagues Cup) and the less important domestic league title.
     
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  7. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes, but that wasn't the point here.

    The point of league champion is to award the best performing team of the year/season. And that was in 2000 Corinthians in both, and in 2024 Miami and LA Galaxy/NYRB. I would argue that Supporters Shield shows much better the best performing team of the year, than MLS Cup where you can be out in two games.

    Your analogy hardly makes sense.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Dortmund are standing tall in Group F. Ulsan are also in terrible form in the AFC Champions League (as are Al Ain for that matter). I predict it will get ugly for Auckland City.
     
  9. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I think Al Hilal are going to surprise a few people who don't follow the Asian game.

    Not to mention, Salzburg are having an awful season so far.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well, this is shifting the goalposts. I agree that MLS has a dumb format, because it doesn't reward the best team with the championship. Nonetheless, that's how MLS does it. :ninja:

    My analogy is just fine, thank you. Both leagues have/had playoffs and both considered their champion whoever wins the playoffs (whether they finished first during the season or not).

    The other (obvious) matter is that FIFA didn't announce how the host team would be determined for the 2025 CWC until the same day that the MLS regular season ended. What a coincidence! :ROFLMAO:
     
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  11. dropped_at_birth

    dropped_at_birth New Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 9, 2024
    Jordi Alba, glad you are able to chime in on this subject.

    I think most here would agree that having Miami in this tournament is purely a money grabbing marketing ploy. Miami's selection was the split-second decision of one person, the King of FIFA, who is trying to make relevant a tournament few see as necessary. There was obviously a lack of transparency as to what exactly that one person was basing it on since Miami didn't meet any of the merit-based requirements to be in this tournament that supposedly FIFA used to organize the event.
     
  12. Krish Patel

    Krish Patel Member

    Al Nassr
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Hello everyone! I am new to this group. I am excited about the 2025 club world cup :). My question is, how hard is it to volunteer because I am from philly and I am looking to volunteer for the very first time.
     
  13. Krish Patel

    Krish Patel Member

    Al Nassr
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Also when will they release the full schedules with the team venues?
     
  14. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  16. Krish Patel

    Krish Patel Member

    Al Nassr
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  17. Krish Patel

    Krish Patel Member

    Al Nassr
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Tickets go on SALE on December 19th!!!
     
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  18. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #1043 Nico Limmat, Dec 7, 2024
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  19. Krish Patel

    Krish Patel Member

    Al Nassr
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2023
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Are the prices gonna be cheap as everyone is saying?
     
  20. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #1045 Bada Bing, Dec 7, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2024
    It isn't, there wasn't any interim titulero in 2000 Brasileiro, and it wasn't recognized as back then. And that's because they just played 21 games, like I said. And there wasn't any need to even think one or other, as Corinthians won both.
     
  21. Dezmundos

    Dezmundos Member

    Jul 8, 2018
    Hmmm, interesting KO times for local TV
    Wydad Casablanca-17:00, 17:00, 20:00
    RB Salzburg-00:00, 00:00, 03:00

    Austria is only 1 hour ahead of Morroco.
     
  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Porto with 2 group matches in New Jersey. Makes sense given the big Portugueses community just 5 or so miles from the stadium.
     
  23. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Is there a large Argentine community in Atlanta? Is that the reason Miami is playing there? Not that I mind Miami losing a home (market) match. They shouldn’t be here in the first place.
     
  24. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    I am pretty sure he meant manchester city :D
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Atlanta? No, not really. Florida/Miami has a bigger one. But I guess it's Messi so will sell out anyway.
     
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