Expanded FIFA Club World Cup: Tournament News & General Discussion [R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think they were considering something like that initially. Not sure why they decided against it. Maybe as it would lead to fewer European countries having a team in this thing.
     
  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Yep, the reason teams like Barcelona and Liverpool are missing out is the country restriction. But I would argue that is one of the few positive aspects of the format.
     
  3. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    anything is possible, but who cares about some stupid sport awards? in sports you win on the pitch/court/track ..... everything else is irrelevant
     
  4. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    First sponsorship announced!

    Hisense becomes partner for new FIFA Club World Cup™

    I have been thinking about the qualification rules and – while they’ve done a good job for the inaugural edition – I think it can be improved to help generate and sustain interest during the 4-year intervals.

    I favour a single FIFA CWC Ranking with clubs ranked according to the points they win in each continental CL over the previous 4 years (2 points for each win, 1 point for each draw and 4 bonus points each time a club wins its continental CL).

    At the end of the season preceding the CWC – so 2027/28 for the 2029 edition – the highest 31 ranked clubs qualify, irrespective of geography, in addition to the highest ranked club of the host country (or the highest ranked 32 clubs if they include a club from the host country).

    That would satisfy the sporting-merit requirement and treat every club fairly.
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I wonder if that means China has appetite for football again. I could see the 2033 CWC being hosted there.
     
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  6. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That's a good observation. Of course they were scheduled to host the original 24-team edition in 2021 which was cancelled because of the pandemic.

    Why not the 2029 edition?
     
  7. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Fifa in dispute with Adidas and Coca-Cola over Club World Cup sponsorship:
    https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...e-adidas-coca-cola-club-world-cup-sponsorship
    Again, this is probably the reason FIFA packaged the 2025 CWC as a “new” competition and not just an expanded one.
     
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  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I think 2029 is going to go to Morocco. Probably the best commercial outcome on the table and a chance to promote the competition to a sceptical Europe with close proximity.
     
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  9. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #884 Nico Limmat, Oct 31, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2024
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    Brazil will have four clubs at the CWC. The most of any league.
     
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  10. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That makes a mockery of the arbitrary two-club cap.

    I 'm all for diversity but I think the qualify by ranking only system I suggested yesterday is fairer and would maintain the prominence of the competition during the 4-year intervals.
     
  11. Viking lord

    Viking lord Member

    Uruguay
    Aug 4, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    #886 Viking lord, Oct 31, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2024
    Didn't Mexico also have 4 clubs going to the CWC in Concacaf?

    EDIT: nvm, I just remembered that Seattle Sounders won once.
     
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  12. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not really. I think the 2-club limit is a good thing, but at the same time if a team qualified by ranking points over a team that actually won a CL title, that would be going ridiculously too far.

    This is a good balance.
     
  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  14. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    What about joining Messi at Inter? :rolleyes:
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Apparently he has to get in line behind Neymar, who just bought a plot in Miami.

    But seriously, the contracts of both Ronaldo and Neymar are expiring in June 2025 just before the CWC.
     
  16. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, it's good, but qualification exclusively by ranking with a live table updated each MD would sustain interest in the competition during the 4-yearly intervals. For example, Chelsea's win in the 2021 UCL seems too long ago to be relevant to a competition in 2025.
     
  17. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    I love the "win and you are in" format.

    If all spots were over a four-year ranking, then smaller teams would have no chance.
     
  18. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  19. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Hilal paid €90mn for Neymar. He has barely played for them so far and his contract ends in a few months. Now there are strong rumors he will leave on a free in the January window.

    If we weren't talking about a Saudi club and Neymar it would be a very sad story.
     
  20. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Hopefully Miami in some elaborate salary budget exemption deal. Let them nurse him back to health. Over and over again. :D
     
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  21. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  22. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Inter Miami already eliminated in the first round of MLS playoffs. :ROFLMAO:

    Here’s hoping they lose all three group stage matches in the CWC. They don’t belong in the competition and their presence is a commercial gimmick.
     
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  23. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Most teams don't belong in that competition. Inter Miami is one of the best american teams. Three of the best teams were eliminated in the MLS playoffs. The MLS champion could be a 8th seeded team.

    A lot of teams in the club world cup don't belong there, but a team is required from North America.
    Inter Miami is the best club in the USA for the season.

    Of course that's what an object person would think and understand, but you're a biased clown so this message is only to correct your point.
     
  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    First of all. I’m not a fan of using playoffs to determine a league champion. But that’s the format MLS chose, and that’s the winner that should “host”.

    It’s really not that difficult to grasp.
     
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