Expanded FIFA Club World Cup: Tournament News & General Discussion [R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Confederations Cup is dead. The CWC has taken its spot on the calendar. In this case yes, the CWC serves as an organizational "test" of sorts.

    I'm starting to think Morocco may be favorite to host 2029 for the same reason. After that the CWC should stand on its own and, in any case, can't be hosted in Saudi Arabia in the 2033 summer. On a related note, Qatar gets to host the 2033 FIFA Arab Cup as well - which would have been the perfect "test" for Saudi Arabia 2034.
     
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  2. PJ234

    PJ234 Member

    DC united
    United States
    Oct 17, 2021
    Which tournament is worse? Club World Cup or Leagues Cup?
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Club World Cup. Both are redundant (cash grabs), by definition, but CWC adds 5-7 fixtures for the players that are already playing the most and have the shortest summer breaks.
     
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  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #754 Nico Limmat, Sep 3, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2024
    For me? The Leagues Cup - hands down. An absolute waste of space.

    The Club World Cup fulfills a sporting function replicated in no other competition. It crowns the world champion of club football, and has been doing so in one form or the other since 1960. Does it need to be such bloated format as per 2025? That is certainly up for debate.

    The Leagues Cup is a contrived and superfluous addition to the calendar with a truly unbalanced (i.e. unfair) format that is mostly a repetition of the Concacaf Champions Cup. Worse, it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Instead, being a "qualifying event" it further negatively impacts the Concacaf Champions Cup by skewing allocation numbers to a ridiculous degree. This year MLS had 10 spots and will do so again next year. Such a generous allocation for a single league has not been possible in any confederation's premier club competition in the entire history of the sport.

    Not even in Conmebol where allocation tends to be very kind to Brazil and Argentina.
     
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  5. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Club World Cup, at least in its current form.

    Leagues Cup has no major pretense - there's no qualification to worry about (just exist in a participating league) and it serves as one of three subregional qualification methods to the regional championship.

    Current Club World Cup pretends to have the best clubs in the world, but most will be 2-4 years out of the qualification and will have noticeably different rosters than those qualifying teams, maybe even having dropped down their local ranks entirely, plus the qualification is insanely lopsided by region. If you want more inter-confederation play and properly in-form teams, smaller yearly tournaments (maybe every other year) would be so much better.
     
  6. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Actually, the CWC is replicated by that other annual thing with 7 teams in it.
     
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  7. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    True. I keep forgetting about it. :D

    PS: Six teams

    Another guess for tomorrow, new trophy design!
     
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  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  9. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    It does. The just revealed logo does match.
     
  10. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    World football's gonna get Concacafed something fierce :ROFLMAO:
     
  12. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #762 Nico Limmat, Sep 5, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2024
    FIFA defiant over Club World Cup despite legal action:
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/202...ant-over-club-world-cup-despite-legal-action/

    The details really should have been hammered out before the European summer break. FIFA (and the ECA?) spent way too much time talking to Apple.
     
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  13. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA should have received all of the media rights tenders by the end of the month so it should be possible to announce which channels it will be broadcast on globally by the end of October.

    The Apple negotiations were strange because as far as I am aware they want global exclusivity for the content they buy from rights holders but it is essential there is some FTA coverage of this initial edition for obvious reasons.
     
  14. AhiTun4

    AhiTun4 Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 16, 2024
    Los Angeles, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So when will the venues be announced? I mean if FIFA is serious, they should at least lock that part down, it's not like they don't know the region (East Coast). I think maybe they want to wait for the Gold Cup venues to be announced on the West Coast, but CONCACAF usually does that two months before hand.

    Hopefully they didn't get cold feet or something. I don't want the 2024 Copa America to be remembered as the last major soccer event we hosted before 2026.
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #765 Nico Limmat, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:56 AM
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2024 at 9:19 AM
    Good question.

    They waited until December with this year's Copa America. The host team, which presumably gets to play at least the group stage in its home market, won't be known until December. MLS Cup isn't until December 7th, and if they engineer a playoff between that winner and the Supporters' Shield holder (all but wrapped up by Miami) then you have to add a few more days until the host team is known.

    I don't think they will just hand it to Inter Miami, as much as all parties involved would like that. They won't undermine MLS Cup that blatantly. Unless MLS Cup is won by a Canadian team, in which case they could conveniently argue it has to be an American side.

    I suppose they could just announce the venues with the exception of the three group stage games for the host team.
     
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  16. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I wouldn't be suprised if they wait until this first international window is over and - when the focus returns to club football next week - they start to make a serious of announcements about the venues, competition schedule, date and venue of the draw, presentation of the new trophy and which channels will be broadcasting it.

    Since the end of the last club season the EUROs and Copa America, Olympics, UEFA club competition draws and this first international window haven't given them a window of opportunity to make significant announcements.
     
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