Expanded FIFA Club World Cup: Tournament News & General Discussion [R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    There is obviously the Messi angle, but I wonder if part of it is a "way out" in case a Canadian team wins MLS Cup (none of the Canadian teams are realistically in the running for the Supporters' Shield). Having a Canadian host city would, after all, be simply outrageous.

    Of course, if I was the USSF (which no doubt controls the host spot - not MLS) I would use the opportunity for a lil' payback to Don Garber and give the spot to the US Open Cup winner. :D
     
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  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Inb4 Indy 11 vs. Inter Milan :D
     
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  4. PJ234

    PJ234 Member

    DC united
    United States
    Oct 17, 2021
    Leagues cup is a joke.
     
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  5. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  6. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I realize he has to say whatever to promote the event as few footbal fans are aware its even happneing, but can we ease up on the BS please?

    "a new FIFA Club World Cup where the 32 best clubs in the world will play in the US from 15 June to 13 July next year to crown the real world champion of club football,”''

    Where to begin with that quote? "real World Champion". So the other Club WC crowns a fake one?
    "The best 32 in the world" . :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Come on, Gianni. It could very likely feature a team in the second division of Brazil. That's why every other club competition in existence is based on a 12-month calendar, not 48 months. And Auckland FC in the top 32? :D
     
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  7. PJ234

    PJ234 Member

    DC united
    United States
    Oct 17, 2021
    Club World Cup is a joke competition.
     
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  8. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  9. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
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    AS Roma
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    Italy
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  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    It will be interesting to watch how it all plays out. My main initial thought is that advancing a team that gets only 8 points (in 8 matches) is too low of a bar. Last season six teams collected either 8 or 9 points from six matches, and only 3 of those advanced.

    That said, jI think there will be teams with 8 points that won't finish in the top 24.
     
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  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The deadline for the media rights tender is tomorrow, August 20th.

    When is the next FIFA Council meeting?
     
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  12. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    October.
     
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  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
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    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #713 Nico Limmat, Aug 19, 2024
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    Sounds like quite the meeting with expanded CWC, Intercontinental Cup (presumably), and possibly a decision on Israel.

    They also need to appoint the 2029 CWC host asap and then hopefully introduce a proper bidding process that is approved by the FIFA Congress, like the Men’s and Women’s World Cup. Not that the above is beyond manipulation, as seen for 2034. :rolleyes:

    But enough of this last minute throwing together of competitions. Especially in the club space. The 2022 CWC in Morocco was quite possibly the worst organised tournament in the history of FIFA. The host was announced six weeks in advance and the draw happened a little over two weeks in advance.

    It‘s becoming an Infantino trademark.
     
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  14. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think it's only the WC and WWC that have to be decided by the congress.

    I was under the impression the decision about Israel would be taken at an extraordinary Council meeting, that is what was said at the congress and the latest information is that it will be decided by the end of the month.
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Correct. As of now. If Infantino wants to make the CWC a FIFA “marquee” event he also needs to treat it as such with a public bidding process.

    The latest piece on IWF now says October. If they are going to reprimand Israel they probably think it’s better to do it with other news.
     
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  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Let's first see if the 2025 CWC happens and how it goes. I fully expect/assume all expanded CWCs will be played in the US or Middle East. And there's no rush to announce the host.
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The summer timing rules out the Middle East and Infantino won’t push for a winter edition at this point. Morocco and Australia so far voiced interest for 2029. I would also expect to see it in Brazil, Japan, South Korea, and China once they regain their interest in the sport at the government level. Maybe South Africa. And eventually Europe after 2-3 editions.

    A timely host appointment is key in making it successful.
     
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  18. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, Australia have already said they are interested and it would be a reward for their excellent hosting of last year's WWC with NZ.

    I think there would be considerable interest among the Australian public in the competition. In fact, I wonder whether they might pair up with NZ again for a joint bid.

    Indonesia would also be another potentially excellent host nation.
     
  19. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    And Australia opted not to bid for the 2034 WC when Infantino needed Saudi to be the only bidder. Make of that what you will.
     
  20. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    We would need to co host with New Zealand (or potentially Indonesia). It would also need similar stadium requirements to the WWC as we don't have enough over 40,000 seater stadiums but have several in the 25K-40K range that could be used. The other problem is the same as we had in the women's world cup. The other football codes are in full swing so some stadium sharing needs to happen to keep the playing surfaces pristine for football. The Rugby codes usually like longer grass and they tend to chop up the surface more, particularly in wet weather. They were pretty reasonable for the WWC and scheduled around the requirements to make a number of stadia available for the whole world cup. There are 3 suitable stadia in Sydney but only two were used for the WWC to allow the NRL competition to continue uninterrupted.

    The AFL use cricket grounds and they tend to try and disrupt other sports as much as they can so I would forget using their grounds.

    I think the AFC had a big role in that and we were told if we bid for 2034 forget about any support from the AFC for any other tournaments. We've since been given the Womens Asian Cup in 2026.
     
  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny, I don't remember the AFC strong-arming Australia into backing down when they bid against Japan, South Korea and Qatar for 2022... :cautious:
     
  22. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Different policy then. Everyone could bid but the exco members (everyone had one except us) all agreed they would continue to vote for an AFC candidate while they were still in the vote. Definitely a different policy for 2034 because if it requires a vote then everyone has one.
     
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  23. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #724 Nico Limmat, Aug 26, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2024
    We are down to 8 teams in the Libertadores:

    Fluminense (BRA) - Atletico Mineiro (BRA)
    Botafogo (BRA) - Sao Paulo (BRA)
    Flamengo (BRA) - Penarol (URU)
    Colo Colo (CHI) - River Plate (ARG)

    Hard to not see another Brazilian winner here. An additional ranking spot would go to either Olimpia (PAR) or Colo Colo (CHI).

    That just leaves the host spot and it's time for me to eat some crow here. Inter Miami have definitely surprised me and are leading the regular season table with eight games to go. I really did not expect that due to the age of their stars and Messi's injury troubles. But they have proven me wrong.

    (That said, I hope the spot goes to the MLS Cup winner with no additional "playoff")
     
  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    River is probably the only hope for stopping a possible Brazilian Champion.
     
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