Expanded FIFA Club World Cup: Tournament News & General Discussion [R]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    That would be the best and easiest solution. But if they must have this thing, I always felt having it the year after the WC made more sense than the year before. Especially, if FIFA doesn't want it framed as a WC preparation tournament, which inevitably will happen in 2025.

    If its played the year after a WC, the Club WC could replace the June FIFA window so that the tournament doesn't extend so far into the summer. The June FIFA window one year after a WC is pretty much a waste of time anyway - players going through the motions before their summer vacation. The June window before a WC is of course going to be packed with WC qualifiers.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It would conflict with the Women's World Cup though.
    (Which personally I do not care about but other people do.)
     
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  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    True, but I think that's only an issue if both were played in the same country (or same region, maybe).

    Women's WC can also start in early-July, if FIFA wants.
     
  4. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The June window in the year after the WC has the UNL Final Four and EURO Qualifiers.
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Come on now.... You got the chicken and egg mixed up. :rolleyes:

    Those are made-up events that filled a gap where nothing was happening. We haven't even had a UNL playoffs yet under the new format.
     
  6. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The UNL Final Four has been held twice in the June window in the year after the WC in 2019 and 2023 and this schedule will continue in the future.

    EURO Qualifiers have always been held in that window too.
     
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  7. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Yokohama Marinos beat Al Ain 2:1 in the first leg of the AFC final today.

    Winner goes to the 2025 CWC.
     
  8. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    A full UNL season only needs 4 windows to be played (or 3 under the new calendar that begins in 2026). Three for the group stage and 1 for the playoffs. So, Sept to March would be sufficient. Of course, now that they expanded the UNL playoffs (which also makes a mess of the Euro and UEFA WC qualifiers) that's not possible anymore.

    In any case, it still makes more sense to have the expanded CWC the year after the WC for the other reasons I mentioned. I don't see any benefit for having it the year before a WC, other than the money comes 2 years sooner for FIFA. :laugh:
     
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    FIFA specifically wanted to fill the slot left voided by the Confederations Cup.
    They are not going to move it to the year after the World Cup.
     
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  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    A tournament which could never shed the 'warm-up tournament' label and died with few people missing it.
     
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  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  12. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    "¡Estamos en la C!"
     
  13. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, usually 8 MDs for NL, but with the additional League A QFs it has to be 10 MDs.

    They have not messed up the European Qualifiers though because - unlike between 2018 and 2023 - teams will complete their NL campaigns before starting their qualifiers in March, June or September, depending on whether they're in 4 or 5 team groups and whether they play NL KO ties.

    Scrapping the June window in the year before the WC is not an option.
     
  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
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  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    River Plate have qualified. That's 29 teams known, 3 TBD. Boca Juniors almost certainly to be one of the last 3 to qualify.
     
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  16. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Pretty much a blockbuster line-up of clubs.
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Funnily enough, not so much for the hosting confederation:

    1. Monterrey
    2. Seattle
    3. Leon
    4. Pachuca or Columbus

    Seattle can be a force in their city (they are not the host, will Seattle get games?) but other than Monterrey I think FIFA would have picked a few more Mexican giants.

    And yes, the Cirque de Messi might still get in as host. :D
     
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  18. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    The UEFA contingent also could have been alot stronger, both from a quality standpoint and in terms of fan appeal. Having Chelsea instead of a Man utd or Liverpool; Salzburg instead of Arsenal, Ajax/PSV or a 2nd French team like Marseille. And of course Atleti instead of Barca.

    C'Bol pretty much sent the best though so far. Still one more TBD, however, which could be a relatively small club.

    I am clueless about the rest, though obviously no cr7 will have saddened FIFA.
     
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  19. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, there are some clubs with less international appeal - even Chelsea and Man City are relatively limited compared to Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal - but that was expected with the two clubs per country cap.
     
  20. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    FIFA will not have Cristiano Ronaldo and potentially Messi, but they did get Neymar.

    The club line-up for CAF is a good one. For the AFC I'm guessing FIFA would prefer Yokohama Marinos to a club from a small oasis city in the UAE.
     

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