Ex-RSL Players Part 6: Here, There, and Everywhere

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  1. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should have all kinds of opportunities in Cincy. Probably has one of his best years.
     
  2. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Danny Musovski rumored to be closing in on a contract with the Sounders, as per Ton Bogert reporting for The Athletic.
     
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  4. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luis Tejada - who played for us very briefly in 2007 - died today at age 41.
     
  5. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2455 SenordrummeR2, Jan 28, 2024
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    That’s wild. No mention of the cause.

    edit: According to this tweet he died of a heart attack. That sucks.

     
  6. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently he wanted ~$700k from RSL. We'll see what he gets from SEA.
     
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  7. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I understand not wanting to use TAM or going a full 4 years on the contract (no idea what he wanted on that end), they should have offered him more than they were paying Rubin (they didn't).
     
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  8. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Perhaps this played into Fall getting the boot. There was definitely differences of opinion on Moose between Fall and Pablo which was born out when he started Moose the second he was available and back from his "sabbatical".

    It's a well known fact that Beltran loves Pablo more than anyone really should and Pablo loved Moose so there had to be some kind of power play in there to get the owners to pull the plug in the EF era. As much as Pablo says he didn't know or make the call to jettison his coaching staff I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it was all a big horse trade.

    Elliot goes and Pablo stays ONLY if they can make other changes and make the coaching changes they want. A guy that really believes in his coaching team might not stick around after they have been shown the door. You would think the Universe would frown on that lack of comradery.

    Just thinking out loud about something that means absolutely nothing.

    Good luck to Moose in Seattle.
     
  9. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but did Pablo pick all the coaches that left? I thought he inherited some of them.

    Also, what is EF up to now?
     
  10. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Good question, probably not but the more I ruminate on how things all went down the more I want to know how it all went down. And yes, it's none of my damn business.

    But the more I do think about the more it feels like RSL is still taking half measures. Rip the band aid off and get a coach that plays the style of soccer the owner/FO want the team to play. This mix and match just feels like there are still too many cooks in the kitchen.

    So very curious to see how this all plays out this season.

    Don't know what is up with EF but if the trend continues I'm sure he is headed to Seattle. lol
     
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  11. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given how much movement there has been this offseason, I wonder if it was EF's seeming commitment to stand pat (when he suggested we shouldn't expect much out or in) that doomed him. That's a failure of vision that doesn't seem to match with what the owners are attempting. I don't know when the other DP slots will be filled but I expect them to be.
     
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  12. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Perhaps, but how is/was there such a disconnect between the FO, owners, coaching, and EF? Really weird.

    What's done is done so we shall see how it all plays out. This season will definitely be interesting. We just aren't going to have a regular old boring season for awhile I take it.
     
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  13. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe he just figured he had his guys in place, and the FO thought we could do better. Me, I like the idea of replacing Rubin, Damir, and Sava with a combo of youth and new signings (or new young signings like Barrajas).
     
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  14. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I, for one, disagree. We all have emotional and financial investment in the organization and wanting to know is natural. Things like violations of conduct policies and the sort are none of my business. Something like ownership, FO, and coaches possibly being on different pages at least fall into the box of “My keen interest” if not into that of “My business”.
     
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  15. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that the team wasn't getting enough from those players given their compensation, but it'll be hard to watch if they are replaced with unproductive youth.
     
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  16. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    I definitely and keenly interested in how it all actually went down.

    I don't really believe that Pablo had no idea his coaches where hitting the bricks. I could be wrong but I lean towards some chicanery involving a little bit of horse trading between Beltran, who adores Pablo, and Pablo himself, working to ditch Elliot Fall. If he had to agree to a new coaching staff so be it.

    I'm sure that there was a lot more involved with owners, FO, Schmid, etc. but I wouldn't be surprised if the plan was to ditch Pablo too, considering they said they wanted to change out the coaching staff for more "tactical" coaches for Pablo. Which sounds weird. Keep the coach that can't but he can rah rah.

    We will probably never know what really went down and even if we did sometimes the truth is a tad more boring than what you can make up in your head. Of which I am way to accomplished.
     
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  17. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pablo is the 4th HC since August 2013. That’s a lot of turnover at the job. Perhaps the organization kept him in order to maintain stability for another season, especially while they are without a GM. There’s also the thought that the new GM should have the opportunity to evaluate staffing.
     
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  18. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a lot of turnover when you put it into the Coach Sloan perspective, but is 4 coaches over 11 years really that high? That's just under 3 years per coach. That seems about average in MLS.
     
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  19. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    It does seem long for soccer teams. My Crawley Town had 4 coaches last season alone. Not recommended.
     
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  20. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the same time frame:

    Galaxy = 4 plus two interim guys
    Rapids = 5 plus three interim guys
    Dallas = 4
    Quakes = 6 plus two interim guys
    Timbers = 3 plus an interim guy
    SKC = Vermes since 2009
    Sounders = 2
    Dynamo = 6 plus three interim guys
    Whitecaps = 4 plus an interim guy
    Fire = 6 plus two interims
     
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  21. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't realize Vermes has been there since 2009. For some reason I thought he started a few years later. He and Schmetzer are the anomalies. Every season when I think they are finally going to get let go they turn the season around and make a second half surge.
     
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  22. KendaReal

    KendaReal Member+

    May 3, 2010
    Taylorsville, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They can't find someone brave enough to tell him he's been fired.
     
  23. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Kelyn Rowe retires at 32. Played most of his career in New England and had some USMNT caps. He left us in 2021, won all the stuff with Seattle (his hometown) in 2022, and then had a knee injury against us in May last year. I believe he'd had some injury issues before, so this was the straw the broke the camels back for him. Nice guy and decent role player. Good luck in your future ventures!
     
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  24. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    I have no memory of Kelyn Rowe playing for RSL. I'm giving it about a 30% chance that the Wikipedia entry stating that he played 4 games for us in 2019 is some kind of prank.
     
  25. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was on the roster
    Didn’t play a ton
    One year gig if memory serves
     
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