Ex FIRE players......

Good for Wicky.

I think he had a bad experience in Chicago, being hired just prior to be Pandemic and we never were able to see what he could really do. 2020 and, really, 2021 were basically wastes and then he was gone.

 

But he had Nelson 'shady' Rodriguez and his "near encyclopedic knowledge" of MLS roster rules for the first year!

He also had the "non foreign" leadership of Ishwara Glassman-Chrein and she had snacks!.
Well, she had no MLS experience, that's for sure.

 

Djordje only played for Wicky in 2020 and played in 20 matches out of 23 matches that season.
He played about the same number of matches as Medran (I have seen 20 and 23 for him in 2020).
He was sold to Montreal in 2020.

Stojanovich played in 2 matches in 2020. He joined at the end of February, 2020, just days before the aborted season began.
As I recall, he had an injury in 2020 (MCL in July, remember, the season was canceled and there was the bad MLS is Back Tournament, I think he was injured in the second match) and then there was the Pandemic to deal with for everyone.

In 2021, he played in 27 matches and scored 8 goals (ties for the team lead).
Medran played 32.

The Fire did not pick up the option on Stojanovich's contract after the season...two months after Wicky was gone.

How were they "wasted" by Wicky?

By the way, Medran was gone the same time as Stojanovich.

 

Or, maybe, your recollection is not in line with reality, which I looked into and reported.

Oh, Medran rather sucked, but he did not play at the "expense" of either Djordje or Stojanovich, since was was gone in 2020 and the others played almost as many matches in 2021.

 

Yes, I never said they played more or fewer minutes.

The point you tried to make was that they were benched as a result of Wicky choosing or being "forced" to play Medran, and therefore "wasted."

That simply was not true.

I guess you said 'limit' and that MAY have been partially true for Luka in 2021, but I doubt it, since Luka played almost every match and started over half of them.

 

The larger point, of course, is that the Fire (not Wicky) clearly did not rate Luka that high, since it was the Fire (and not Wicky) who did not pick up his option, two months after Wicky was gone.

I personally think that was a mistake, as I thought Stojanovich was a highlight in a rather 2021 season.

 

He only managed more than 15 minutes off the bench twice.

Three of those "9times he got 15min or less" were AFTER Wicky was sacked.

Off the bench, he scored 1 goal and that was AFTER Wicky was sacked. Not sure how he was not a better contributor off the bench.

Sorry, your hypothesis that Wicky somehow wasted Stojanovich and Djordje is simply not true.

 

I think the Frankowski situation is different and more complex.

He was clearly unsettled and unhappy. Whether that was due to Wicky or not, I don't know, but it was clear he did not want to be here, the Fire did want him here, or both.

Again, I think the Pandemic enters into the equation when discussing 2020 and 2021, but it was clear something was off with Frankowski, especially in 2021, considering he was high spot for the Fire in 2019.

I just recall many of us shouting for him to be on the field...and then he was gone.

 

That is not what I remember, but I will defer to your recollection, as it is undoubtedly more accurate.

I thought there was some "grumblings" about him wanting out as early as Winter or Spring, 2021. Again, that might have been fans saying he wanted to go, not Frankowski saying it.

Regardless, his time in Chicago was sadly disappointing and he should have been a core Fire player for a decade.

 

Chivas, with young Brian G starting, is playing Pachuca on Telemundo.

One of the few times in recent years we could see Gutierrez play his trade in free broadcast tv.

Had a decent shot in the 25th minute.

Admittedly, I have not watched Mexican league soccer in decades. From what I have seen, it is much less vicious than it used to be back in the 1990's.