Evra, "We were Babies" - The other teams thread (Special humiliation edition)

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ZIAD, May 28, 2009.

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  1. YankGooner

    YankGooner Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. surfcam

    surfcam Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Corpus Christi, TX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the second half they switched and it was Crynaldo. There were several hard fouls out of frustration on Puyol as a result. I think he even got booked (CR that is) for them.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    amazing how many bigsoccer posters can pick a better team than fergie, wenger or rafa combined :D
     
  4. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    fergie did fukc up though
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Who exactly should he have picked in midfield to deal with those bad mofo's?
     
  6. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    And there was the match against Chelsea in the FA cup where Wenger didnt start Arsharvin and didn't bring him on til too late...
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    the fact remains that none of these armchair midfields ever have to step to the likes of Essien, Ballack and Lampard :D
     
  8. FabregasTED

    FabregasTED Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    New Haven, CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think he should've played O'Shea in the midfield and Rafael down the right, but I think he was afraid Rafael would be torched by Titi.

    He's probably right. I think Ferguson was in a "damned if I do..." scenario, but his biggest mistake was thinking that he could stop Barca the same way he stopped us, without Fletcher. As soon as it was apparant Fletcher wouldn't play, I think you have to revert to 4-2-3-1 with Berbatov leading the line, and Ronaldo able to attack the space between Toure and Sylvinho.

    Another great tactic was playing Messi through the center. Xavi, Messi, and Iniest created a triangle of possession, with Sergi right behind them to mop up.

    To be honest, it was nice to watch :) Ol' Rednose has generally been spot on with his team selection over the past two years, so I enjoyed him having to back track like a dispossessed fullback at half time. For once, an English team not from North London lacked steel in a big European game. Seeing them fail on a big stage really made me feel like we're so much closer to realizing our potential than we realize.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The problem is the two guys required to make 4-2-3-1 work are CQ (gone) and Schole (done).

    Rafael was never going to start against Henry

    You seen the boys defending?
     
  10. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    exactly, lol
     
  11. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    u realize in another thread you said the '3' were not midfielders... now they are?
     
  12. surfcam

    surfcam Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Corpus Christi, TX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The beauty of hindsight and already knowing the results!
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Anderson has to be one of the 3 - not one of the 2

    as last night showed

    the guy can't play CM at all
     
  14. Red Agave

    Red Agave Member

    Aug 2, 2005
    Manchester
    It's been a lovely day to be in Manchester. ;)
     
  15. surfcam

    surfcam Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Corpus Christi, TX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL!! I'm sure it has!!:D
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    ive said this for a very long while this season... Denilson is better than Anderson... he is not the athlete that Anderson is, but he is as good technically, and is a hell of a lot more intelligent... a lot better footballer... Song is too... United fans have convinced themselves that Anderson is excellent when he has a long way to go
     
  17. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL @ Fletcher being some sort of missing link for United. what a joke.
     
  18. Silva 5

    Silva 5 Member+

    Mar 10, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    has something to do with his price tag if you ask me.
     
  19. Red Agave

    Red Agave Member

    Aug 2, 2005
    Manchester
    I was very sympathetic...

    "so disappointing when your team just crumples after 10 minutes", "being completely outplayed is one thing, but showing no fight makes it really hard to take", "you must be very frustrated that you couldn't get through that makeshift defense" etc.

    I'm sure you get the picture. :D
     
  20. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    tbf, Fletcher is a big game player... he would have made little difference yesterday (Hargraves would, imo) but I understand the want for Fletcher to play... he is the only one that would be willing to make a strong tackle
    exactly...


    im not saying Anderson is not going to justify his price tag... or that he isnt going to be good... but he is no where near that right now...
     
  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    not at all, yet again u warp posts

    get off your high horse prince like your some kind of football authority

    true jitty, carlos q was the one who introduced the 4 2 3 1 to fergy
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    if he played in his natural position hed be much better

    anderson is shackled somewhat more than denilson is for us as he can play the middle role better
     
  23. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    lol @ "high horse"

    ur a funny dude...

    like its been mentioned... ManU dont have the horses to run the midfield you were suggesting... you cant play Scholes there because he is done... it would have been Carrick and who at the '2'
     
  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    the only chance united had was to attack equally, they pressured and were outplaying barca for the forst ten

    the goal shocked them and they never recovered

    imo they shouldve played

    ..............berba

    tevez......rooney.....ronaldo

    ...........carrick....anderson/o shea

    scholes i spose wouldnt have coped

    rooney helps midfield alot and tevez is superior to giggs and berba would offer them a central outlet which they lacked
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    the problem is that however you shuffle the deck, Carrick bottled it and sprayed rubbish passes completely bypassing midfield and losing possession

    4-2-3-1 requires a general like Scholes.... Carrick just showed us he can't hack it, whatever the line up
     

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