PBP: Everton vs. Manchester United (EPL) - Dec 4, 2016 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by b0sk1, Dec 2, 2016.

  1. b0sk1

    b0sk1 Member+

    Jan 28, 2011
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG] vs [​IMG]


    Kick-off Sunday 1600 GMT, 1100 EST
    Venue Goodison Park
    Last season Everton 0 Manchester United 3
    Live Sky Sports 1, NBCSN, MUTV online, Telemundo, beIN Sports/Direct TV (some countries)
    Referee Michael Oliver


    Everton

    Doubtful None
    Injured Besic (knee, Feb)
    Suspended None
    Form DLWLDL
    Discipline Y28 R0
    Leading scorer Lukaku 7

    Manchester United

    Doubtful None
    Injured Shaw (unknown), Smalling (toe, both 11 Dec), Bailly (knee, 17 Dec)
    Suspended Rooney (one match)
    Form DLDWDD
    Discipline Y30 R1
    Leading scorer Ibrahimovic 7​


    Is there any team news?Luke Shaw could miss out and his fellow defenders Chris Smalling and Eric Bailly also appear unlikely to feature, but Paul Pogba and Marouane Fellaini will both be available for selection after serving a one-match suspension on Wednesday. Rooney was a star performer in that match and would have no doubt been relishing the opportunity to equal or even break United’s all-time goalscoring record at his old stomping ground, but a yellow card picked up in the second half of the cup win rules him out of this one. Everton also have a fairly clean bill of health, with James McCarthy in line to return to the fold following a recent hamstring injury. Mo Besic is the club’s one long-term absentee; the Bosnian sustained a serious knee injury in Rooney’s testimonial match before the start of the season.
     
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  2. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We will win.
     
  3. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Amazing that we have more cards than Everton.
     
  4. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just more evidence of what appears to be clear bias against United from officials this season. Don't recall them all obviously, but some were distinctly cheap/undeserved.
     
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  5. omar_mufc

    omar_mufc Member

    Oct 19, 2004
    You'll be seeing me pitch side pre-kickoff guys, as I'll be giving the players a guard of honour as it's International Day of Persons with Disabilities, and Everton have kindly asked disabled fans of both sides to be a part of it.
     
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  6. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Wear a "Where is VERMONT RED" shirt pleasae.

    On the real though, that's cool.
     
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  7. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The starting team for Sunday should be as followed:

    DDG
    Valencia. Jones. Rojo. Blind
    Herrera. Pogba
    Miki. Mata. Martial
    Zlatan
     
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  8. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That looks about right to me, Ashur.

    It will be interesting to see whether Ibra can handle a third match in 7 days.
     
  9. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    thanks for the assist with the thread b0ski. i've not been able to sit at a PC and craft one since Wed. not that it takes long but it's tedious on a mobile device
     
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  10. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    And a red "Make Dark Savante Great Again" hat.
     
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  11. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    That's great, enjoy it! Can you give Gareth Barry a kick while you're there?
     
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  12. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I like how the team news in the first post says Rooney was the star in the last match. Because he didn't suck, he must've been the star. Surely no middle ground exists. Lol.
     
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  13. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we're being honest, Rooney's performance Wednesday was much better than "did not suck": he had a very good game. As a matter of fact, it probably was his best game for United in a very long time. He did not score but he did everything else right in a very dynamic and complete display, in support of Zlatan.
    Miki was clearly my MotM, but each player in the front 4 that day had reasonable shouts. We should be so lucky if he could maintain that level for an extended period of time.
    Jose's move to bench Rooney and give him more time between games, wile straightforward and seemingly obvious, looks to be paying dividends.
     
  14. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rooney played very well, but we will be better off with Mata pulling the strings.
     
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  15. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Rooney was decent but he was still the worst of our front 4 in the last match.
     
  16. incighte

    incighte Red Card

    May 1, 2016
    wayne HAS to start.

    since he was benched against leicester we are 2-5-1 (w-d-l). we won against leicester, and we won against swansea.....where wayne started and had 2 assists.

    wayne HAS to start games for us again. we are markedly performing worse as a team without him. we haven't even scored more than a single goal in a game he hasn't started, with the exception of the first game against leicester.

    this board and critics everywhere can finger it with the eye test all they want, but they'll only end up poking out their own eyes.
     
  17. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    he's rubbish mate!
     
  18. incighte

    incighte Red Card

    May 1, 2016
    so are our results without him.

    edit: if you're in the business of being a pretty loser, by all means, captain. but i like winning.
     
  19. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    he's got no speed and a donkey first touch
     
  20. incighte

    incighte Red Card

    May 1, 2016
    addressing you any further would be a waste of time and an insult to intellect.
     
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  21. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  22. omar_mufc

    omar_mufc Member

    Oct 19, 2004
    Would a surgical shove in the ankles with my wheelchair suffice?
     
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  23. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    This argument is such a massive red herring.

    Over those, are chance creation and fluidity has been on par, or better than anything the past few years, including the early season.

    Better finishing and we take all 5 of those ties as wins, comfortably. And the irony is Waynes finishing has been poor for several years now. His stats bear that out, as does the 'eye' test.
     
  24. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Not only does he not have to start, but I think it's pretty safe to say he won't start today....because he's suspended. Nice rant though.
     
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  25. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His form has been better as of late but you still can not justify benching one of Mata, Herrera, Pogba, or Carrick for him. Rooneys new role on this team is to come off the bench and provide a spark if the team needs one.
     

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