Everton & The American Market

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  1. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Following on from the Landon overreaction and how we might get some fans from across the big pond.
    I am led to believe they attract attendances on average of 15,000, thats league 1 standard in a country which has far greater number of people that little old UK.
    So my question is, why we trying to crack a market which has no interest in being cracked? Why would a Californian or a New Yorker want to take an interest in a English Prem Club when they cant be bothered supporting there own local club.
    In my opinion we would be better going elsewhere where there is a untapped market
     
  2. ark215

    ark215 Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    America
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know what you're talking about. Bringing Landon to Everton wasn't about getting American dollars. It was acquiring a player who can add pace on the right or left side of midfield.
     
  3. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Disagree
     
  4. Onyewu Power Station

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Everton FC

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  5. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    That post is flying 20,000 foot above my head
     
  6. ark215

    ark215 Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    America
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look at our midfield from November and December. It was injury plagued. We were trying to get folks who was attack minded. That's why we were pursuing guys like Ben Arfa, Ever Banega, Axel Witsel and Huntelaar (not a midfielder but still a guy who could play an attacking role) to add to our squad on top of Donovan. Senderos was required to boost the depth at the back because Neill was sold.
     
  7. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    You have misread my initial post totally mate
     
  8. ark215

    ark215 Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    America
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought your first post was about how Everton wanted to crack the American market by getting LD. I'm saying it wasn't about that at all.
     
  9. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Football is not their most popular sport. If it was they'd get in the region of 100k+.
     
  10. Jondi10

    Jondi10 Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    Rome, GA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he misread your post then so did I. From what he said is exactly how I think your post was about. Maybe you misread your own post...go check again.
     
  11. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Well am saying it was a major reason why we signed him, we could have got a player from anywhere and its why we continue to go across the big pond virtually every pre season
     
  12. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    With what money?

    Donovan was a good purchase, footballing wise. He was also a good purchase marketing wise.

    Perfect match. Stop moaning about it.
     
  13. ark215

    ark215 Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    America
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't we go everywhere during the summers?

    Also isn't $43k/wk in middle in terms of wages (31.8 euros, 28.7 pounds)?
     
  14. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Usually places like Scotland, Austria and America.

    We go to America for revenue, no doubt about it. It's also a superstition from Moyes.
     
  15. KCWizEric

    KCWizEric New Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Lawrence, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I agree that it is a great match. As far at the OP I am american I am a MLS STH for the KC Wizards. I am an Evertonian. The exposure of Everton in the USA has helped me connect with English Everton fans as well as fellow American Toffees.

    From an MLS standpoint it is getting the same draw as League 1 because some would say the talent is on par with League 1. If players of the caliber of those in the Premiership are playing day in and day out in the MLS you might see a higher attendance rate.

    There are a ton of fans in the US that turn their nose up ant the MLS for this reason.

    Just my thoughts...
     
  16. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Sums it up to be honest mate, you dont see the US Football attendances dropping when the team is sh*te.
    Its just simple facts that the vast majority of Yanks just dont give a sh*t and dont want to understand the game of football, which brings me back to my original point of we are flogging a dead horse trying to crack the US market
     
  17. KCWizEric

    KCWizEric New Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Lawrence, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wholeheartedly disagree...
    Take KC's football team the Chiefs. They had a notorious reputation for having a huge home field advantage. The past 3 years the team has been horrible. The attentance has also suffered. The difference between NFL and MLS is many. But if you lived in driving distance of Goodison and there were only 8 games there a year. If you are a fan (through thick and thin) then you will be at almost all of the matches yes? You can't compare MLS to NFL to many variables.

    I what I was trying to say in my post and maybe it got lost in translation. By Everton FC playing warm-up fixtures in the USA it has allowed for those fans here that feel isolated to get caught up in all things Toffee.

    I know personnally I have spent $300 with EvertonDirect this season. I had not purchased anything prior. I don't think itis a dead horse by any means. Heck I would even suggest they form a partnership with a club like KC or Toronto (Both have the Preki Mo Johnston connections). KC makes more sense with the team colors and all

    Develop players that are not quite Reserves ready or getting back from Injury in the off season. There are many things that could be exploited by Premiership clubs in America.(y)
     
  18. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can definitely see interest in the EPL growing in the U.S. over the next few years.

    ESPN2 has started showing 1 or 2 EPL matches each week, and practically everyone in the U.S. gets that network. And Fox Soccer Channel, which usually shows 4 or so different EPL matches each week, is available on most digital cable TV packages.

    While older Americans (except for immigrants) don't tend to be interested in soccer, a huge number of Americans either played youth soccer themselves and/or have kids who play soccer in youth leagues.

    Of course, not all of those folk will be very interested in soccer. But even if just a small fraction are, that's an awful lot of prospective new soccer fans.

    And since Americans are accustomed to watching "the best", and the EPL is the best soccer league in the world, I have a feeling the EPL will end up gaining a lot of fans in the U.S.
     
  19. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    What is KC Chiefs average gate?
     
  20. KCWizEric

    KCWizEric New Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Lawrence, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    doesn't really matter does it? You are arguing about americans not liking rotten apples by saying americans don't like apples and never will because they prefer the taste of oranges.

    I am saying that if we had a bushell of good apples then we would EAT IT UP! I do agree with the post above. I wake up early (6:30 am local) on saturday to catch Premier league in HD on ESPN2HD.

    ESPN and Fox are starting to realize that there is money to be made if good apples are marketed correctly. America is full of imagrants who don't like ORANGES!!! They are craving the apples they remember growing up in their various homelands. Plus middle small town america is realizing the value of apples. There are now parents (like myself) who grew up eating apples and never liked oranges.

    I am saying give america good apples and there will be plenty of us that will want to eat them.


    Apples = Soccer (football)
    Oranges = American Football
    Rotten Apples = MLS when compared to EPL
     
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  21. ark215

    ark215 Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    America
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you mean? Lions' ownership disagrees.
     
  22. ark215

    ark215 Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    America
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol damn i thought i got up early for everton games.
     
  23. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Whats the average gate?
     
  24. KCWizEric

    KCWizEric New Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Lawrence, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know don't like NFL. If you have a point yoiu want to prove or bolser I would suggest google. I don't think the NFL has any berring on the marketibility of Everton in the USA.
     
  25. StickyToffee

    StickyToffee Red Card

    Jan 21, 2010
    Club:
    Everton FC
    I was talking about your MLS club
     

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