European G14 BAN new FIFA Worldcup for clubs The G14, the organization of the 18 topclubs, has today let know that all the connected clubs the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS for club teams, as the FIFA that have written out, will boycott. The WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS replaces the fight round the world cup that the last years in Tokyo we're held. The clubs find that the competition program already busily enough. Furthermore let they know by going with her plans a compensation to demand of the national football federations for each day that the national team players of a club claims. Sorry for the bad translation, but you'll get the point
They way I understood the format, the Euro champs got a bye to the semifinals. ...so G14 is banning one additional game for one team?
Nope. They're boycotting the World Club Championship entirely. (I'm gonna edit the thread title for accuracy.) Here are some articles: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3517156.stm http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/football/03/16/fifa.clubs/
Two if they win that match. I can see their point of view, if FIFA doesn't give them money for taking players out of their team (who's salary they pay) why then should they let FIFA make money of them?
" I can see their point of view, if FIFA doesn't give them money for taking players out of their team (who's salary they pay) why then should they let FIFA make money of them?" From the bigger clubs point of view, this is such a statement of arrogance. If you read the websites of the smaller clubs of the world, they are usually very happy that their players are picked for their national teams. Sure the coach may complain a little bit but normally they see it as an honor and so do the players. In fact, it seems that it's just the money-people at the clubs who don't see it as an honor.
I think Blong's point is that the European champion ALREADY plays one "world championship" match, so it seems a little ridiculous that they are now so upset over the addition of one match to that grueling slate.
This was inevitable once Blatter decided to be dismissive of G14. He overplayed his hand. I wonder what will happen of a non-G14 club qualifies for this from Europe?
Fair play to them for coming right out and saying it. Blatter and his self serving agenda will undermine club football to his own end. I would have to think that a non G-14 winner would take the side of the European clubs before some self-important pompus oaf from FIFA. Blatter and his cronies have still to come to understand the "club before counrty" sentiment of most European supporters!
Well, that must be it then because I believe it country before club. Then again I don't have just one club either. Well, no current team.
¿Why is it arrogance? The clubs pay the salaries of the players (which aren't low to say the least) yet they should hand in their employees at the whim of an organisation that doesn't pay the club for the services of their own players? Even at the risk of these players getting injured while the clubs don't even get one measly euro? You can disagree with them, but I don't see how this would be arrogance.
European clubs have said adding another tournament runs counter to FIFA complaints that soccer stars already play too many games. FIFA wants to cut down on national and continental league matches, but has not reduced its own international calendar. "It is inconsistent to complain on the one hand about the burden of the overloaded international calendar and at the same time propose additional matches," G-14 general manager Thomas Kurth said in Valencia on Tuesday.
In other news, the Italian League is thinking about expanding the Serie A to 20 teams. This is the real reason for the boycott - player compensation. IMHO scrapping the Confederations Cup would be an appropriate compromise...
Precisely. It's a battle for control fuelled by greed (on both sides). This World Club Championship is FIFA's attempt to muscle in on the lucrative club scene. Not a surprising move for an organisation which all but bankrupted itself and remains a bloated and corrupt mess. I think the G14 clubs are right to tell FIFA where to go, and the last thing we want is for Blatter and his cronies to start interfering in domestic affairs, which he's desperate to do. Club does come before country when you're talking about professional players in a major competitive sport. Which is what the game is.
hopefully the Intercontinental Cup won't be destroyed by FIFA now that the G-14 is going to boycott the world club championship.
While I understand the G-14's position, if this turns into a real dragged out ugly affair I dont see how they can win against FIFA. Imagine the following ugly scenario: FIFA tells the G-14 clubs its fine if they dont want to play---the FA's to which they belong to will be banned from competing for the next World Cup. In addition imagine if UEFA backs up FIFA's position and in addition imposes a huge fine upon each club. Another possibility--The FA's in order to save their collective butts suspend the renegade clubs from play. Imagine the EPL without Man U playing or Serie A without AC Milan--a blasphemy? yes Would other clubs complain?--probably not, given the fact that it would blow the competition right open. Granted nothing i just wrote may happen--but my message is only this--things could get extremely ugly and the only ones losing would in the end be the fans and the game of soccer. Is one additional game really worth causing this whole mess? I agree with the guy who said that a good compromise might be to eliminate the Confederations Cup--I would willingly give up a tournament that is nothing more than a glorified exhibition for a real world club championship capping the long club season at the end of every year.
I would agree....the confederation cup should be scraped. Also G-14 is stupid for asking for compensation. What the hell is this!!! The players are going to play for their national team, not FIFA. It's also stupid that a player don't participate in friendlies and qualifiers, and if the national team qualify for a big tournament i.e. World Cup, then they say...."ok i'm ready to play." Screw them fools!!! It's just like my high school football team, most don't show up for practice but when its game time....players shows up. If the player's loyalty is with the club and money and not king and country.....then might as well stay with the club. The National team have plenty of players and players that are willing to be patriotic and represent their country. Think of it like the National Guard or the Army Reserve. When your country calls for you, you go and do the job. If you don't want to do that, then you can quit and keep working for the company you work for. If you agree to go, then the government doesn't have any obligation to pay back to the company that you work for. So FIFA should cut back on useless Confederation Cup. G-14 should be disbannded because their looking for the interest of money...compesate them my butt!! Ultimatly the decision that should be taken are the players.....if they want to go and play for their club....by all means. If they feel honor to play for their country....then by all means. Almost forgot....If the European clubs in the G-14 doesn't want to participate in the World Club Cup....fine then. Let other European clubs participate. FIFA is the legitamate soccer body, therefore the tournament is legitamate. The club that wins the tournament is the best in the world and it's legitamate. CONCACAF, CAF, ACF, OFC,and maybe CONMEBOL (disagree concept but hasn't said it will boycott) are in. I'm sure UEFA would like to see the best European team in the tournament but might have to settle for a secondary team.
I tought the main compromise for Uefa voting in favor of the world club championship was that European clubs be given the freedom to choose if they wanted to participate or not. Meaning neither uefa or Fifa could punish a club if they choose not to go. I could be wrong, but i seem to remeber reading this somewhere. Regarding national team compensation, that is just plain lame. That will kill national teams. Fifa will not pay this and it will end up falling directly over national associations. How many national associations could afford paying compensation outside of Europe ?? Or do they expect african eastern European and latin american countries to be signing out checks like ther's nothing to it ??
You are correct. I say go with that... Once the Crybaby-14 realize that they can't use the Club World Championship as leverage for their ridiculous demands, they will quickly get over themselves and start participating (because the CWC payday is too good to turn down).
The G14 clubs are right, the World Club Championships should be boycotted by the G14 cluns. But wait, let's just not stop there !!! All other club championships (eg all the tin-pot Cups in the English FA) should also be abandoned in favour of what the G14 clubs want. Why stop there ? Shouldn't the world's FA's also be stopping their Premierships and all other divisional club championships because thay aren't part of the G14 clubs domain ??? Ignore them and let them go their own way, without any parachutes ! World football is bigger than the money-grubbing, greedy, power-hungry G14 clubs. Andy T.
What is the prize money in the World Club Cup? Is it possible that a cash-strapped Euro champion would defy G14 in order to pocket a few easy million?
A few million? I'm not sure about that. The reason Spain 2003 didn't go ahead is because the money and the interest wasn't there, and this will have a struggle even being in Asia. This isn't a serious enough money earner for a G-14 member to justify letting FIFA run it.
If the number I've seen posted somewhere is for winning the entire tournament (3 mil), it's about the same as winning a cl game or two in the group stage for the big teams.
Oh people do get so huffy about this. Look - simple situation. 1) The WCC is a load of old horseshit. Just deal with that. It is not "for the good of the game", it is not to ensure the little guy from the minor confederation gets a spot in the sun, it is not an act of benficience from FIFA in the name of the global game. 2) FIFA want to reign in the power of club football - and most specifically, European club football because they have no remit there. And that, especially where a bloated technocrat ego like ol' Sepp is concerned, will not do. But don't let yourself fall into the lamentable trap of believing that he gives a flying fuck about you. He does not. You are a tool, a means to an end, a convenient sop, a useful idiot. If he could stick it to UEFA in another way, a more convenient or easier way that required less effort from him and meant he did not have to hobnob with you hoipolloi and pretend to like you, then he would. Not involving you and your shiny-cheeked enthusiasm for the wider good, would be a blessing to him, but as things stand he can't do that. So he heaves a weary sigh and let's you play with the big guys for the time being. 3) G-14, whatever you think of them, have a remit to look out for themselves and not the wider game. In taking this stance, they are doing that. That it just so happens that they are also destroying this WCC nonsense in the process is just a convenient, coincidental bonus point. You don't have to be a fan of the G-14, but you gotta love the work they do sometimes. This just happens to be one of those times.
I think it goes without saying these days. It is surely inarguable that the only reason we have no interest in such nonsense competitions is because we are scared Real Madrid could lose to Might Hearts of Oak.