Well that’s because Italy did not qualify for the World Cup in 2 cycle. if and when they get their act together, they will be back in the mix.
Don't always go for the big name Manager. Credit to Spain for thinking outside the box here. 2008-2012 Spain team featured a heavy Barca and Madrid core. Not one of these teams won all 7 matches. Indeed the 2010 team only scored 8 Goals, IIRC. Spain 2024 doesn't draw heavily on Barca and Madrid players (because they too are going the foreign route but not to the extent like Italy and England). Many from mid clubs, Laporte from Saudi Arabia. Unlike those historical Spain teams, the 2024 team scored the most Goals in a single tournament and won every match. Spain do not have the best player in every position except a few but they all have high skill and have an identity. As for Luis De la Fuente. Except for 2 separate spells managing minnows Alaves, he has managed primarily youth team of Bilbao and Youth NT's. So he has already managed many of these players. Kudos to Spain making this hire. I do wonder if other teams promote the youth NT Manager for the Senior team. As I wrote a while back, Italy did it with Cesare Maldini. What's more, how in 2 years he has modified Spain's playing style and has got the players to buy into it.
The Spanish nt thread is dead. Why?? Lots of Madrid and barca people, you'd think they cheer on espana!!! Lol
I can give you a list of 30 reasons why Euro's sucked this year. Copa has always been ruthless. It's been even more brutal in the 80s and 90s. This is nothing. Did I enjoy it, I didn't enjoy all the poorly run pitches, issues, unfair treatment, But what do you expect of a third world organization running a tournament in a first world country. That's the truth, but the Euro's are a first world organization with billions of dollars and first world wealthy fans, and even they can't keep the Euro's an elite tournament from descending into violence and chaos. Did I enjoy it, not the bad stuff, but what do you want me to say. Wave my hand and fix the problems that are out of my control? We won, against all the negative odds again. That's the most beautiful thing.
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This is also football...so what? You want every side to try and play like Pep and bore us all to tears with 5 yard sideways passing? Argie football is ruthless, thats why any young forward doing double numbers in assists or goals is highly sought after. They breed quality footballers.
The overhead camera footage of the Argentina goal is beautiful to watch. Paredes with an iconic play.
The comment was a generalization. Never once did he critique 1 particular team. Play-acting is not ruthless. Fouling can be, however. He also paid a compliment to Argentina. Earlier comment is correct. The Final was definitely not dirty. Was expecting it to be.
So sad to see Gareth go. Sunday was not his fault, the players must take all the blame for not turning up. Changing him will make no difference. If we play Spain again in a few years the outcome will be exactly the same. The final had nothing to do with either manager. Much more deep rooted and all to do with culture/ideology.
Uruguay vs Brazil, Canada vs Chile as well. Blatant elbow by the Canada player that was somehow missed. Unless believed it really was an accident. Which leads me to CONMEBOL not opening their wallets to implement full use of VAR/ Goal Line technology. In that USA vs Uruguay match, on the Uruguay goal they just paused it and drew a line. UEFA went all out for the European Championships.
Agree with all except the last part about against all odds. It was likely going to be a 3 team tournament -- Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina. Only basing this on Eliminatorias what has been seen so far. As for fan violence and breaking into the stadium -- Lack of education. Will watch video later.
Not sure if it's true or not but I keep reading online that Gareth Southgate will coach the USMNT....
The finalissima is a celebration trophy. It also was nice to play Italy in a competitive environment. I love when Italy faces Argentina. This is what makes me happy about football. Unfortuantely today, people make football miserable.
I guess I should have worded it better. I know the competition is not like in 2021 or the path to 2022. I mean against all odds like people wanting the downfall of the team, worries about conmebol's reputation with argentina, families that might hurt in the finals and the chaos. The stuff that was going around the team, as they were just playing football. Also the odds of trying to beat a team that was undefeated.
I wasnt aiming that he was critiquing one team. Split my comment in two. This is also football...so what? You want every side to try and play like Pep and bore us all to tears with 5 yard sideways passing? The darker arts to the game are football just as much as the nice play and goals. Its all part of the theatre. Argie football is ruthless, thats why any young forward doing double numbers in assists or goals is highly sought after. They breed quality footballers. The second part is just me saying I have respect for their league. Its often the most defensive league in the world on goal averages. Its a tough football so any player with decent numbers from their has eyes watching them.
Sadly, even if Southgate is appointed, the USA will still suck... BREAKING: U.S. Soccer has reportedly had conversations with Gareth Southgate to become the next USMNT head coach. The federation wants a proven coach with European experience.
SOCCER AMERICA DAILY Soccer Media Watch: Sunday’s finals draw more than 20 million viewers by Paul KennedyJuly 16, 2024 June 16, 2024, Gelsenkirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany: TV-Kamera mit UEFA EURO 2024 Logo waehrend des Spiels der UEFA EURO 2024 - Gruppe C zwischen Serbien und England, Arena AufSchalke am 16. June 2024 in Gelsenkirchen, Deutschland. (Foto von Alex Gottschalk/DeFodi Images) .. TV camera with UEFA EURO 2024 logo during the UEFA EURO 2024 - Group C match between Serbia and England at Arena AufSchalke on June 16, 2024 in Gelsenkirchen, Germany. (Credit Image: © Alex Gottschalk via ZUMA Press) The Euro 2024 and Copa América finals combined to average more than 20 million viewers on Sunday. Euro 2024 final: • Fox: 6,430,000 viewers. • Univision: 3,000,000 viewers. • Top Fox markets (ratings/share): San Francisco (4.5/23), Miami (4.3/15), West Palm (4.3/12), San Diego (4.2/21), New York (4.0/16). • Tournament average on Fox/FS1: 1,675,000 viewers. Copa America final: • Fox: 6,019,000 viewers. • Univision/TUDN: 5,200,000 viewers. • Top Fox markets (ratings/share): Miami (5.0/14), West Palm (4.6/13), San Diego (4.1/15), San Francisco (4.1/15), New York (4.0/12). • Tournament average on Fox/FS1/FS2: 1,418,000 viewers. • Tournament average on TelevisaUnivision networks: 1,860,000 viewers.
I'm not at liberty to say his name on a public forum but I have an acquaintance at Canada Soccer who told me that La Finalissima was borne because UEFA and CONMEBOL wanted to show a united front against bi-annual World Cup (Arsene Wegner's hairbrained idea). Obviously a tournament without the big 2 Confederations won't be legitimate. This is why they opened an office in London, and why they exchanged Referee's at these 2 tournaments. As for the video... he is correct on everything except maybe 1 thing. I don't see the USA getting criticism for what happened, most people are blaming the Colombia fanbase, level-headed Colombians aboveall. Written that I did watch a video of an Argentine blaming organizers saying they don't understand South American passion and how it would never happen in Europe. Well, the exact same thing did happen in Europe -- the 2021 EC Final at Wembley with English fans rushing the gates. Also one of the more recent UCL Finals at St Denis (Paris). Scummy neighborhood where the stadium is and both Liverpool and Madrid fanbases being victimized. UEFA have made mistakes as well. But inside the stadium the fanbases are kept apart. Something not done in American stadiums. The pitches were brutal. Bolivia also had a bad training pitch. Can't believe how every closeup of a player you could see blades of grass sticking to him. It was so bad in some matches that it appeared that they over-watered it to compensate. Camera angle in USA vs Panama. First 20 Minutes of the match we were getting the feed from the camera in the upper bowl. It took a phone call from FS1 to CONMEBOL to get them to show the pictures from the lower bowl camera.
Did your previous message about Viewership between the two tournaments take into account Spanish-language TV?
It's listed. Euro 2024 final: • Univision: 3,000,000 viewers. Copa America final: • Univision/TUDN: 5,200,000 viewers. Univision is Spanish language....
No, I was referring to your message from about 10 days ago that said Viewership from EC was higher than Copa America.