We were dominant tonight. No way around it. I haven't seen an Italy move the ball around that well in a long time. I'm happy for Ciro that he scored that beauty, but he missed 3 very very good chances before that. Against a France or Spain, we can't afford that. Let's hope he gets those misses out of his system. The media and a lot of fans are acting surprised at this Italy team. It's as if they have not watched the last 2 years and what Mancini has built. He has them firing on all cylinders. Everyone believes and every is playing for each other. Very selfless play out there. Locatelli has been playing at elite levels for more than a year now. Juve are idiots because they should have locked him up earlier and now they will have to pay a massive price for him. We have to take Wales seriously. There is a massive difference finishing first in Group A versus finishing second. I'm sure we will have some subs for the game but I hope they come up with fire. FORZA AZZURRI!
If we’re keeping track of VAR. Used twice… and both decisions against us so far. A continuation of Serie A luck from CL. So Chiellini deliberately uses his arm .. but the Turkish defender last game does not?!? VARfanculo
I know its early but Italy traditionally gets better as tournaments progress. Their defense is still the best and this team scores goals. So far, they look unbeatable but they haven't faced any strong team yet.
wooottttttttt last time we conceeded a goal was 9 games ago. wooottttt keep it up! Chielline goal didn't count, I was so happy see he score, he is my all time favorite defender.
I believe we lost to France in the 2016 Euro. I'm more impress with the 2016 France side than this 2020 France one. If this 2020 side is so stacking in tallents like how pundits claim then they should be trashing Germany, intead they won by an OG. If we don't win, I root for Portugal, I'm a fan of CR7 so I want to see him win again.
We lost to Germany on penalties in Euro 2016. I think this France is slightly better than France in Euro 2016, but France 2018 World Cup was definitely the best. France didn't have Mbappe in 2016 and used Payet instead who was a player that had one amazing season but otherwise he's not that great. Although France is without Matuidi, but if I had to pick, I'd rather have Mbappe up front and lose Matuidi when I already have Kante and Pogba there.
Guys, I really want to know, how do you think Italy now compares to us back in 2016? 2016 Italy Under Conte was really good too. Do you think we're better now? What are your thoughts?
The defense was better then (mostly because they were younger). All the rest is a lot better now. Just remember: we had Parolo and Giaccherini in the midfield, Pelle and Eder as forwards. Very little creativity...
better overall team now but that team had a number of standout individuals that none of the current crop have ever reached the level of.
This 2020 team is way more talented than the 2016 team. It's not even close and the overall results over a period of 2 years show that. This team runs a 3 man midfield and dominates teams. That team played a 5 man midfield and relied on grit and tenacity to get results. Don't get me wrong...they squeezed everything they could out of their talent, but they did not have players with the quality feet and skill that this team has.
As for the French team, they are very good. But like everyone else, they have their weaknesses. Kante is fantastic but Pogba is inconsistent as we all know. Any team with Rabiot in the midfield is going to suffer his heavy touches at times. Their defense can also be exposed on the counter. Mancini has to be tactically smart against them but a team with a midfield as strong as ours can take the play to them. If we play them, they will press our midfielders hard and try to force turnovers and quick counters. Jorginho's lack of foot speed was exposed last time we played them. He's got to be more careful with the ball. Luckily Barella runs a million miles a game and he's an X factor that has completely changed the midfield. I'm not scared of any team and neither should the Azzurri be with the talent and teamwork they have right now.
The team gets into a nice rhythm with their possession high up the pitch and it suffocates teams. The team know their roles and its a boss mentality on the pitch. Mancini is on point. Locatelli's ball to the wing was a thing of beauty on the first goal. Mix it up with direct play and no need for tipppy tappy that seems to be taking away from a good passing midfielders instincts in the modern game. See the ball and bang.
Congrats on your 2 wins. Do you guys think Mancini will field a B-team for the next match, or go full A-team??
I think Mancini will mix the bag. We're guaranteed KO rounds but we still need to win. I would start Verratti from minute 1 to get him into the tournament I would do something like this
Thank you. Congrats on yours. Good question - I think it'll be a mix. Some guys need rest - Chiellini for one.
This team moves the ball fast like many good Italian teams of the past, less in the middle of the pitch and more in the final third. That's how it's different than tic tac. Big difference is that it at least seeks a 2nd before shutting er down, but how many missed Toloi coming in for Berardi? Then Cristante for Barrela? The commentators surely did, or at least the impact it had. If it were 20 years back moans of catennacio would be cried, even if it is a tactic that died 150 years ago. Similarly the tic tac is dead too. I wish they'd do us all a favor and stop reducing their observations to stereo types but unfortunately it works to get the tournament fan in the discussion. While they continued to counter attack after the changes, the pace significantly slowed down and Switzerland effectively had nothing as space between lines were gone, and our end was clogged with bodies. You'll never remove that from Italian DNA nor should it be removed. It's a fantastic tactic when it is used appropriately.
Good points guys. I agree, this team is better on paper and talented wise no question. However as a team, I feel that Conte got the absolute best out of the players. In the games against Belgium and Spain we looked very dominant. However, I think this team has a lot more options and players we can work with. In 2016 I feel that many key starting players couldn't be replaced and our bench was very questionable especially with Conte's tactics.
Last time we played France was only Mancini's second game in charge, and we were still a terrible team from the WC qualifying failure. That was way before we became a good team again. Also it was a friendly.
Denmark played amazingly well today. If they had good finishing they would have won by 2 or 3. Pure energy.
no.. that will be Belgium most likely in the QFs ... the chance at playing you would be if you finish 2nd in your group and we would play the round of 16