Pre-match: (EURO 2016 - Group Stage) Germany vs. Poland 06.16.2016 [R]

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Lahmfan, Jun 12, 2016.

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if life is 42 (as we discovered in the previous thread) what is death?

  1. 41

    10.0%
  2. 43

    90.0%
  1. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nope . Those are bvb fans in their natural habitat... no sarcasm
     
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  2. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Why is goetze used as a false 9 anyway .. Would he not be better suited on the wings ??????
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  4. EmersonRW

    EmersonRW Member

    May 3, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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  5. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Götze isn't a winger. His best position is in the middle.
     
  6. Jordan Khamra

    Jordan Khamra Member

    May 21, 2014
    I was comparing them to Spain versus each other....
     
  7. Jordan Khamra

    Jordan Khamra Member

    May 21, 2014
    His best position is on the bench.
     
  8. Jordan Khamra

    Jordan Khamra Member

    May 21, 2014
    Great question. Clear he is not the right solution. Plus, he does not have the mentality/personality for that position. I also don't think Mueller should be the false 9, much more effective when he has freedom to roam. If we must play with a false 9, I'd like to see how Podoskli would fare with the type of midfielders we have. At least he was a striker before. Also gives us the option to play with 2 strikers, if need be.
     
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  9. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kahn has said he thinks Götze doesnt fit in this possession based system at all. Not even in midfield. Like he never seemed to click in Guardiolas possession system. When did we see the best in Götze? In Dortmund's gegenpressing. In midfield but without the emphasis on possession.
     
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  10. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Any predicted line up by Bild/Kicker?
     
  11. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I remember Goetze playing at Dortmund as 10 and or on the wings.. but not as false 9... Thats where he had his best games.....
     
  12. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Loew -the question of the striker: For me, Götze was not as bad as the critics made out. I think that he ran a crazy amount and did a lot for the team. Gomez has trained well and is in good form. Both would be ideal candidates for the game against Poland. I think that we will have more possession, Götze can combine well in tight spaces and Gomez is strong when we play down the wings. We will also look at where the opposition are vulnerable. If balls into the box from wide are ideal, then Mario Gomez is the perfect candidate. If the opposition have more problems in the centre, then Götze is very important in the middle as a pivot when the opponents sit on the edge of their box. But the final decision will also come down to my gut feeling.

    Bild and Kicker have the same Lineups as against Ukraine, just Hummels replacing Mustafi
     
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  13. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I've never seen Germany sending more crosses into the box since 2002 in the game vs Ukraine. Still Götze started.
     
  14. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes agreed.... Jogi says one thing, but his team was just blindly crossing the ball into the box, with our shortest guy trying to challenge for the ball.... The way they played against Ukraine and what Jogi says, Gomez should have played.
     
  15. BMGuy

    BMGuy Member

    Bayern Munich
    Sep 6, 2004
    vietnam
    It will be the same lineup with Mustafi in the CB because after all he's the best player in Germany defense in the last match, why change especially Hummels might not 100% fit , maybe a change on RB, hopefully. Kimmich could play just like Lahm in Bayern, move forward to both the middle zone and right wing
     
  16. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I dont believe Mustafi was the best player in defense, that was Boateng.
    Mustafi nearly scored an own goal, also at one or two chances the Ukrainians had, he was directly involved and lost the header duel against a Ukrainian player .
    Hummels offers also more build up play..... but Jogi said he might still give Hummels another game to recover
     
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  17. P to the Wee

    P to the Wee Red Card

    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Is first place tiebreaker head to head? In that case a Germany win + either a draw or Ukraine victory in the other match gives us an early group win.
     
  18. Minttunator

    Minttunator Member

    Oct 4, 2010
    Estonia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. P to the Wee

    P to the Wee Red Card

    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  20. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So if we win against Poland tonight ... then the match against Ireland would be a great time to do one or two experiments.... like ....
    • Play Kimmich just for once......
    • Start Gomez
    • Sub in Sane
    • Play Schweinie in a 4-3-3 with Kroos and Khedira
    • Sub in CAN for hector
     
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  21. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #71 White/Blue_since1860, Jun 16, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2016
    We wont win cause this our 2nd game. It's a rule.
     
  22. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Why insist playing someone who is not comfortable in the role when you have alternatives who are better suited and prefer playing the position?

    Götze is not being helped by this, he needs to play in his best position and find his confidence and form again, not be played out of position and be left to be shot at by the media and fans when he struggles there. Poor man management from Löw imo.
     
  23. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rules !!!!!!! Are there to be broken.....
     
  24. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ah not in Germany. and Ill take it as long as the other rule goes we make it far, far into the tourney. ;)
     
  25. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    HAHAHA
     

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