EURO 2004 playoff draw-

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by MightyBees, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. MightyBees

    MightyBees New Member

    Aug 16, 2003
    London, England
    Latvia v Turkey
    Scotland v Holland
    Croatia v Slovenia
    Russia v Wales
    Spain v Norway
  2. La Brujita

    La Brujita New Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    Looking at the match ups a small part of me believes it was fixed. I know UEFA didn't want Spain or Holland knocked out and all the strong teams are playing weak teams.

    It probably wasn't fixed but...
  3. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Slightly surprising draw. I fully expected it to be rigged, but in fact it's pretty open. Didn't particularly want Russia, but could be much worse.
  4. Barish

    Barish New Member

    Jun 28, 2003
    Istanbul, Turkey
    God wants Turkey to go to Portugal next year no matter what, that's for sure.
  5. Barish

    Barish New Member

    Jun 28, 2003
    Istanbul, Turkey
    This thread actually should have been opened in Euro2004 section and not here. This tournament has sod all to do with FIFA.
  6. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    arrogant enough to write off latvia before you even play them.

    *shakes head and laughs with contempt*
  7. Barish

    Barish New Member

    Jun 28, 2003
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Whoever you are playing against, you step out on the pitch to beat your opponent, don't you? ;)

    Nobody's writing off anyone...
  8. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Put another way, according to the current UEFA seedings (as calculates by BSers here)

    among the 10 teams, the rankings are

    #10 v #1
    #7 v #3
    #4 v #5
    #6 v #8
    #2 v #9

    if I get my count right. Overall, not quite fixed, but pretty remarkably good spread of the highest ranked teams. Only the Croatia-Slovenia tie involves two teams in the top half playing each other.
  9. DennisM

    DennisM Member

    Dec 10, 2000
    Nya Sverige
    Scotland barely got in it. It could have easily been Iceland as well. When I first saw this draw, I thought "O, no. Poor Latvia, Poor Scotland. Poor Norway." Anyway, that Wales/Russia draw should be the best over the two games.

    Go Latvia. Maris! Maris!
  10. paulocesar

    paulocesar Member

    Oct 4, 2000
    I personally feel that the best games will be from Croatia-Slovenia, given that it is "a former Yugoslavia derby." Remember how good Slovenia-Yugoslavia was in Euro 2000? Was one of the most exciting games in a very entertaining tournament.

    Wales-Russia also looks to be good. I fear Norway will batten down the hatches against Spain, while Scotland will likely do the same against Holland. I agree, don't underestimate Latvia against Turkey. It was surprising that they got this far, and they are the ones with nothing to lose. The Turks will be faced with a lot of pressure to do well in the first game. Should be interesting.
  11. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    That and Yugoslavia-Spain of the same tournament are probably the best games I have ever seen.
  12. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Definitely is an interesting matchup.
  13. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Spain vs. Norway is a very interesting draw.
  14. jmcclain19

    jmcclain19 New Member

    Jul 7, 2002
    AZ, US
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: EURO 2004 playoff draw-

    I'm sure the Welsh and the Scots will disagree about being called "weak" - remember Slovenia from 2000 - one of them could pull it out.

    My 2 cents, Turkey, Russia and Slovenia win out. And either Holland or Spain or possibly both won't be going to Portugal, with both having extensive histories for being chokers.
  15. SoccerFan8270

    SoccerFan8270 New Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    My picks would be Turkey, Holland, Slovenia, Russia, and Spain.
  16. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    I think Spain Vs Norway will be interesting for the clash of styles, and maybe some of the Norwegians will start punching the **** out of each other when they'relosing ;)
  17. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Norway don’t fear Brazil. Why should they fear Spain?
  18. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    AFC Ajax
    Re: Re: Re: EURO 2004 playoff draw-

    put down the crack pipe
  19. jmcclain19

    jmcclain19 New Member

    Jul 7, 2002
    AZ, US
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Re: EURO 2004 playoff draw-

    Truth hurts, doesn't it
  20. tomvandamn

    tomvandamn New Member

    Apr 9, 2003
    new york
    yea i hope you guys arent putting money on slovenia

    because croatia is a safe bet

    they have never beaten us and thats not about to change.....
  21. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member

    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    I bet on:


    I would make lotsa money.
  22. SoccerFan8270

    SoccerFan8270 New Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    Does anyone know when these games will be played?
  23. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Fredrikstad FK
    We beat Spain in Euro 2000.

    Seriously, Norway won't be Spain's worst opponents. The weather will be. We play second leg at home around November 20th. Frost bound ground for sure. Most likely also snow. It will be interesting anyway.
  24. Forza AZ

    Forza AZ New Member

    Jun 26, 2003
    1st legs Saturday 15 November, 2nd legs Wednesday 19 November
  25. Soccersuperman

    Soccersuperman New Member

    Oct 14, 2003

    True. Slovenia has never beaten Croatia but you know that Slovenia is no longer a punching bag. And Croatian team has lost Suker, Boksic, Boban and other stars. So chances are more event than you think. Especially considering Slovenian excellent playoffs track record (Ukraine and Rumania). I repeat 55% for Croatia, 45% for Slovenia...

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