EU Defence Union

Discussion in 'International News' started by ceezmad, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    I was searching for a thread to post a story about German tanks, I did not see anything worth bumping, so lets create this thread to see if the Europeans ever get to agree on this "dream" of a shared defense union.

    First post about what this thing is supposed to be.

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/legis...nger-global-actor/file-european-defence-union


    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/878918/eu-army-european-defence-union-pact-brussels-uk-brexit


    BTW, I did not know that Defense and Defence are both correct grammar,
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Now what I really wanted to post.

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    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/men...ab-verifying-turkish-military-vehicle-losses/

    Germany’s Leopard 2 Tank Was Considered One of the Best (Until It Went to Syria)

    But in defense of ze Germans thanks.
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...considered-one-the-best-until-it-24234?page=2
     
  3. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
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    Stoke City FC
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    England
    The British and French have had a very strong defence partnership, even involving a plan to share a defence carrier for a little while. Unless Germany is willing to stump up much more money for an expanded military there will be a great inbalance which may he too much for the French to bare.
     
  4. LastBoyscout

    LastBoyscout Member+

    Mar 6, 2013
    No surprise with the Leopard 2. I mean it was an excellent tank when it first rolled down the assembly line in 1979. But as the first article rightly points out was never really designed for what it's used right now. Large scale tank battles on relativley flat terrain against tze evil soviets. Modifications can only go so far thanks to weight limits. Still one of the fastest moving heavy tanks available.

    Probably one of the reasons why France and Germany want to develop a new heavy tank together in the forseeable future. A new jet is apparently also in the pipeline.

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/...-for-quantum-leaps-in-aircraft-and-tank-tech/

    Also even without a singled out "EU Army" Command structure military cooperation between European countries has intensified over the last decade. It's mainly about complementing each others strengths and weaknesses instead of just ramping up military power as individual nations.
     

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