Promotional hat-trick! Ethan Horvath at Cardiff City FC

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The current emphasis on GK foot skills isnt going away and it's not going to be good news for any US keeper trying to become elite.
     
  2. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Same news for every keeper in the world. Our young keepers are being trained with feet too. USA is not part of Greenland yet.
     
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  3. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Uh, there have been one or two Danish keepers might have gotten a USMNT sniff, tbf.
     
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  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Kasper Schmeichel would have 100+ caps.
     
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  5. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Peter would have 1,000 caps
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    So good he'd have 287 more caps than the US has games played. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  7. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    that's quality!
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    They should change the name to Evergreenland.
     
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  9. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Think we are underselling Hahnemann a bit here but I get the general sentiment.

    Not why our goalkeeper development is struggling atm. Much bigger issues at hand than the ability to ping a 40 yard ball.
     
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  10. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MH was awesome.I was using Feuer as a counterpoint.
    Agreed that we lacking in many other areas currently besides aiding playing from the back.Command of the box,rebound control...we just aren't what we were.
     
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  11. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh uhhh... idk, I think this tumultuous time for Horvath will end up being more a blimp than an overarching tone. Every US gk sat at some point during a time when they shouldn't. Also think Hahnemann will end up outplaying Steffen but TBD for both. Just my guesses : )
     
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  12. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Blimp?

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    (I know it's a typo, but we seldom get to talk about blimps here).
     
  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    how good is he at his peak (now) compared to Howard at his peak?
     
  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I still gotta believe that US keepers must be worth looks at by foreign clubs. Sure, not at elite clubs but clubs like say a Frosinone or a Racing Santander or Union Berlin don't need such a guy. They simply need someone who can elevate their defense and keep some damn shutouts. A US keeper can manage that on the cheap cheap.
     
  15. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    You're right. Transfermarkt shows he played 5 Premier League matches between West Ham and Derby.
    Not to get too much off topic but it's quite intriguing how many U.S. keepers found their way to England in the 90s with a few in the Premier League and a few in the Championship. There was even one who was Norwegian-American that I read was the no.3 for Norway in a World Cup.
     
  16. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Always worth remembering the Hindenburg


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  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    You leave Meola out of this.
     
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  18. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    It's like the whole world got mad at us for finding a position we excelled at and were like yeah we're changing out being good at this position means.
     
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  19. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    I will pick Kasper Schmeichel, who has a much longer peak.
     
  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Damn, I'm always shocked by so many who underrate Howard. Dude was no.1 at Everton for a decade; several of his seasons he was among the best keepers in the country.
     
  21. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Kasper Schmeichel is not exactly a poor keeper. He even won the League title!!!
     
  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I'm pretty sure @striker was talking about Kasper Schmeichel's hair, in which case I don't think anyone can dispute Schmeichel has a much longer peak than Howard.
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Heck, Schmeichel's widow had a longer peak than Howard's...
     
  24. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    "What being good at this position means" has changed, dramatically. Great shot-stopping with velcro hands, excellent distribution with hands from a standing position and excellent concentration are no longer what even mid-table EPL or BL sides are looking for: they want guys who can pass the damn ball with the feet and start the offence.

    Peter Schmichael was mentioned earlier. Not too sure that even he'd get into a Top 5 EPL side these days.
     
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  25. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    Oh I agree 100 percent. It might be awhile if ever the United States produces the quality of GK where we could have three starters in the EPL. That being said, I do agree with others that to a degree I think pure shot stopping is being undervalued now as a result.
     
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