Ethan Horvath all games pbp thread

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad - Gameday' started by Casper, Mar 4, 2022.

  1. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Sounds as though this will call for a ruling, once I've had a chance to review the play. Until then, we will not say that Horvath's error was in judgment but rather in timing and execution.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    https://streamja.com/aNll9

    It's an "Ethan, what are you doing" sort of goal.
     
    TimB4Last repped this.
  3. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Lockyer heads home a corner kick to make it 1-1. Don't need to debate Steffen's role in this one - ball was placed about eight yards out, no chance for Steffen to get it, and perfectly placed pinging off the post and in.
     
    TimB4Last repped this.
  4. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now Steffen……he definitely made an error by conceding that PK.
     
  5. YankatOxford

    YankatOxford Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    In the derby of who can screw up more, Steffen just took the lead! Go Horvath!?
     
    m vann repped this.
  6. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Was there zero contact on that PK call?
     
  7. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Horvath grabs a cross rolled across the face of goal! Allow us to celebrate a good job at a moderately difficult play by an American in this match./
     
    Dervos repped this.
  8. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Steffen got him. Not a lot of contact but when you come flying off your line unnecessarily and make yourself big late, you open yourself up to being exposed and called for a foul, even when there’s not a lot on contact. Steffen didn’t even argue nor did his ‘mates. He knew.
     
    Dervos repped this.
  9. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    #134 TimB4Last, Apr 24, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2023
    He knew ... that a loss is (for some reason) a satisfactory result. No Akpom today, no subs as of 75' (Luton Town w/ 3 subs).

    Middlesbrough aren't trying to lose, they're not tanking, but they're not putting their best foot forward, either.

    Edit: Boro finally make a sub at 78', taking out Archer the goal-scorer, lest he try to score again. Luton with the full 5 subs.
     
  10. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Luton subbed in a 16 year-old?
     
  11. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Too late - they've got this one, like it or not.
     
  12. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's no meaningful difference between finishing 3rd or 4th and Carrick clearly wanted to make sure he's got a healthy, rested squad for the playoffs.
     
  13. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Horvath and Steffen the two lowest rated players in the match on FotMob. USA! USA! USA!
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The home team has now won each of the last 3 meetings between Luton and Boro by a score of 2-1. $10 says a Wembley final goes to penalties.
     
    Winoman and TimB4Last repped this.
  15. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    May as well have the most exciting 0-0 ever at Wembley, with both keepers literally* standing on their heads - their own heads, not each other's heads - 0-0 still after 10 PKs/side, until each takes a spot-kick, and then ... the suspense is killing me.**

    ++++++++++++

    * Yes, I know what literally means.

    ** Not literally.
     
    Dervos, ArsenalMetro and Winoman repped this.
  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    They had virtually nothing to do. Luton had three shots on goal (including the PK) and Steffen saved one of them; Boro had one shot on goal, that Horvath didn't save.

    I was watching two other games at around the same time. The difference is very obvious to me: the Championship has very few shots on goal, so it doesn't test keepers much. The number of shots to Row Z is much greater.

    You can do this sort of comparison any day:

    shots-on-goal.jpg
     
  17. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    £265m = $330M, still a lot
     
  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    For anyone actually interested the real numbers of SoT by league, outside of the TOP 5 in the EPL and the Bottom 3 in the EFL Champs, the SOT/90 range is nearly identical. There's an analysis of the top CL clubs and top league relegation teams from 2013 floating around on the web that show similar results. Yes, the very best teams in the very best leagues have the very best SoTA %, but in the middle and bottom of the leagues it's pretty similar.

    upload_2023-4-24_16-28-5.png

    https://bitterandblue.sbnation.com/2013/1/17/3880454/a-look-at-shots-on-target-epl
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Spread over the entire season, a 0.2 difference is noticeable and 0.5 is big.

    The Top 5 have a range from 3.9 (La Liga, Serie A) to 4.41 (Bundesliga) for the season so far. That 0.51 is considered big.

    3.6 for the EFL Championship so far this season is considerably lower. You'd be hard-pressed to find any first division in Europe with lower numbers. 3.6 was what the Greek League was reporting back when Adu played there.
     
  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Well, I suppose it depends on what one considers "big." Removing top 5 EPL clubs and bottom 3 EFL Champ clubs and the range for both leagues is nearly identical. But clearly professional scouts have no trouble adjusting for the "big" difference in SoT per game between leagues and teams when evaluating players. Individual poster mileage may vary.
     
  21. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Horvath starts against a much more desperate Blackburn side fighting for its playoff life. Blackburn dominating possession and forced two reasonably challenging Horvath saves just now, including a blasted one that he did well to stop and keep possession instead of a long rebound or corner kick. Praise from the commentator.
     
    Winoman repped this.
  22. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    With Steffen's loss earlier in the day, Luton are locked into third, and sort of acting like it. Halftime.
     
  23. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Luton come out strong in the second half, and after an extended corner kick play, Lockyer head home a Morris cross to make it 1-0. Blackburn would be all but mathematically done unless they can reverse this - they're coming for Horvath now.
     
  24. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Horvath catches a cross about ten yards out to end an attack. Lots of fight out there but Blackburn don't have a SOG this half, closest was one deflected just wide through traffic.
     
  25. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Luton - Bradley header off the crossbar while the keeper was still wide of the post after missing a punch of the initial cross.
     

Share This Page