ESPN Soccer Thread

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by Lovac1, May 20, 2016.

  1. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The size of that scorebug is atrocious.

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The college games on the main channels of ESPN/2/U/SECN/ACCN are usually not on ESPN+ and you would need a login to watch through the app.
     
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  3. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    That image is cropped. Here's the a full screen capture:
    upload_2024-9-4_13-10-56.png

    The grey badge ad the middle is U-shaped. Here's the same U-shape on a touchdown.
    upload_2024-9-4_13-10-46.png
     
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  4. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DirecTV, DirecTV Stream and U-Verse customers:

    Call in for your $20 credit. You might be able to get more. I was just given a credit of $30.
     
  5. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.awfulannouncing.com/directv/disney-espn-agreement-coming-soon.html

    There's some discussion/rumor/hope this dispute could be resolved before Monday night. I wouldn't be surprised to see a deal similar to Charter, where some minor/niche channels like Freeform, Baby and DisneyXD, but perhaps ESPN+ and Disney+ are picked up.

    You may remember that Time Warner was one of the last to agree to provide ESPN3 (live sports only at a then-cost of five cents charged via the internet bill), but they were one of the first, if not the first, to carry WatchESPN which had every linear channel the customer subscribed to.
     
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  6. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2357 Kryptonite, Sep 11, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2024
    I wouldn't say lost.

    U-Verse went close to five years without Hallmark and Hallmark Movie Channel...and then there's the RSNs not being on any streaming provider outside DirecTV Stream and Fubo. They're obviously not on Hulu or YTTV, nor are they on Philo, but Philo really doesn't do sports.

    Reelz is on several providers, but not Hulu or YTTV.

    There's other disputes where there's less hope.

    Keep in mind that a ton of sports bars don't get ESPN, although many of the larger chains probably have the local cable as a backup in cases of bad weather or tech difficulties.

    A sports bar without ESPN is far worse for the overall picture than some suburbanite Karen not getting her whitebread, carbon-copy, generic Christmas movies. "Woman travels back to her small town for Christmas, has an unplanned rendezvous with her HS fling, realizes she loves him more than her husband who she's trying to get back together with..." How many times can that plotline be made?

    How long did Spectrum go without the Disney portfolio, two weeks?
     
  7. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well now. This doesn't look promising:
    The ACC Network is only profitable due to the statewide carriage agreements that Disney previously forced on cable providers. Former ESPN President John Skipper confirmed ESPN’s carriage agreements for the ACC Network stipulated an entire state is considered “in-conference” if it contained one ACC school. The ACC Network charges a subscriber fee of $1.30 a month if you are considered “in-conference” compared to 25 cents a month if you are “out-of-conference.” Due to this agreement cable subscribers in New York City pay $1.30 a month for the ACC Network despite Syracuse being 4 hours away.

    https://www.tomahawknation.com/2024...emson-carriage-dispute-cord-cutting-sec-money

    (For those who don't pay attention to such things, the ACC expanded to California over the summer. One report says 38,889,770 people live in California. Assuming one million of them are subscribers to DirecTV, DirecTV Stream or U-Verse, that goes from $250,000/mo to 1.3m per month...unless my math sucks.)
     
  8. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I subscribe to ESPN+. I used to do annual when it was cheaper, then in 2023 I switched to annual. I just noticed that my annual subscription was renewed 2 days ago for $109+tax.

    My cable provider is Optimum. I don't have a Disney+ account (no real need) and I already get Hulu for free another way. Thus I've stuck to the standalone ESPN+ subscription.

    Question: What could I reasonably expect to get for a discount on ESPN+ annual? Either from coupon codes or calling them up to "haggle"? And could I do this 2 days after it just renewed? I.e. would they credit that renewal and allow me to lower my price going forward?
     
  10. Lovac1

    Lovac1 Member

    Jun 6, 2012
    You can get 15-20% cash back if you go through your credit card sale offers on the credit card website. For this, you must let your subscriptions expire. All credit cards tend to run this offer during spring or summer months when there is not much on espn+.
     
  11. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has anyone heard an update on adding the "Disney apps" to DirecTV customers? Part of the dispute resolution was that DirecTV customers would get access to ESPN+ (and also Disney+ and Hulu.)

    They'll also get access to Venu Sports, if it ever launches, for whatever that's good for, considering they're already paying for those channels AND at least two redundant apps.

    The ESPN app
    Their TV provider's app
    Venu Sports
    ...talk about redundancy, amirite? And you know they won't be synched up.

    FWIW, I don't expect the promised "new channel packages" to launch anytime soon. Content owners like CBS won't be happy if channels like Disney or ESPN are offered in a "Kids Pack" or "Sports Pack" available without a primary TV package.

    Going back around, if it takes X months after the dispute for DirecTV to add ESPN+, then would it not be reasonable to expect DirecTV to add Peacock a similar amount of time after their dispute ends? (Anything considerably quicker would be a treat.)
     
  12. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2363 Kryptonite, Dec 7, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2024
    If I was deciding which to get and I could only choose one:
    Hulu (no live TV), ESPN+ or Disney+

    The ESPN tile on Disney+ has made things incredibly convenient. I may experiment and delete the ESPN app for a while.

    At least with Disney+, someone would get the other shows (movies, TV shows, etc) for no additional fee.
     
  13. Roti2000

    Roti2000 Member

    Apr 27, 2012
    I access ESPN+ on Roku. I noticed today that for La Liga they only seem to be archiving the games for a couple of days.

    Today is Monday and they only have matches going back to Saturday ‘On Demand.’ So Friday’s Celta Vigo match, for example is nowhere to be found.

    it is not like this for every league. The Eredivise goes back at least a couple of weeks.

    At some point they updated the Roku app and this appeared to start happening.

    very annoying.

    I haven’t tested it on the web, but it will suck if they are only keeping the La Liga matches for a couple of days.
     
  14. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is one of my pet peeves about streaming. So I just checked the ESPN+ app on my phone and confirmed what you have said. La Liga on demand only goes back two days.

    That’s ridiculous. One of the main values of digital streaming is the virtually infinite amount of archival capacity. I realize that there can be some rights issues involved but two days??? we should be talking years at the very least.

    And if it were truly user-friendly, you could pull up a favorite match from 20 years ago. Or more.
     
  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just tested this myself, also on Roku. On the La Liga page, it indeed shows nothing earlier than Saturday. However, I went to the search function and entered "CELTA" and that brought up games going back to November 10. So you may still have a month of archives if you dig for it.
     
  16. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN+ and Disney+ are currently showing a "Simpsons-version" of the Monday night NFL game. There's separate announcers making all sorts of Simpsons references during the game, the video is being produced in the style of a Simpsons episode, everything.

    Of course the regular game broadcast is readily available on regular ESPN, as per usual.

    This isn't the first time they've had an alternative broadcast and there's a "Madden-style" game coming up in a few weeks, where it'll look like a Madden NFL video game.

    CBS has had "Nickelodeon" games in the past where they've had the slime in the endzones and whatnot. 90s kids would know about that.

    It'd be fun to watch some European soccer game in such a style of broadcast. (Of course, the regular broadcast with regular announcers would be on the usual outlet.)
     
  17. Art Deco

    Art Deco Member

    Dec 10, 2009
    This is just a function of ESPN+ only using so many tiles in its "On Demand" section and La Liga (unlike the other leagues) offering daily shows which are included in that section bumping off games from a few days before from it. As mentioned these games still can be found if you use the "search" function. It's not anything new, I've noticed this a long time now because of all the non-game programming that La Liga produces.

    My current gripe is that whatever update they made to their Roku app in the last week eliminated the "continue watching" tab on the main page (it's still there on my Fire Stick app and Android tablet app though). I also wish they'd duplicate the "schedule" option from their mobile apps to let us pull up games on Roku/Fire but since it's a long text list with links it probably doesn't scale well on TVs.
     
  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It may not be new that ESPN is limiting the display to a relatively small amount of tiles/games, but it's still lame, lazy and distinctly user-unfriendly. And they're not the only streamer that has a lot a lot of room for improvement.
     
  19. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure there's a valid technical reason why this doesn't happen, but say there's a double header.

    Why do people get the "Your Stream Will Start Soon" screen when they click the second link AFTER the game was supposed to begin?

    Why not have a single link for both games? "Click here for both games."

    Team A vs Team B
    2pm ET

    Team C vs Team D
    4:30pm ET

    If you click the second link at 4:39pm, it's very confusing if you don't know that the end of game 1 wasn't at the planned time.

    Alternatively, put a screen up that says something like "The ending of Game 1 was delayed due to **reason.**"
     
  20. Roti2000

    Roti2000 Member

    Apr 27, 2012
    Anyone been watching the Gulf Cup?

    props to ESPN for playing the matches.

    I put on the opening match (Kuwait v Oman) and it seemed like they only had stadium sound—no commentary.

    I only had it on for about 5 minutes. Is no-commentary going to be the norm for this tournament?

    I’m hoping they show the entire tournament. Final group match days are Christmas Eve and Christmas. It will be cool to have live football on those normally dark days!
     
  21. Art Deco

    Art Deco Member

    Dec 10, 2009
    Just realized this is the first time ever that the entire FA Cup from the third round on has been televised in the US. Although several years back all the regular third and fourth round ties started being shown, only a select number of replays were televised each round. But now that replays were abolished this year, we now get all the matches.
     

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