ESPN Screws Us Again

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by futbolrey, Jan 5, 2003.

  1. futbolrey

    futbolrey New Member

    Dec 20, 2002
    Burke, Va
    according to www.soccertv.com ESPN will not broadcast the champions League next year. Instead, espn will switch the champions league coverage on to Espn deportes. NOw tell me does anyone get espn deportes!!! I already get 2 or 4 games on ESPN 2 but now this totoally sucks. Looks like i'll have to get a satelite next year. Thanks a lot ESPN!


    PS
    Comcast Sucks
    and ESPN
     
  2. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    ESPN deportes is cool

    :D
     
  3. KiQuE

    KiQuE New Member

    Aug 14, 2002
    Not when you don't have it it's not. :(
     
  4. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    I'm sure they based their decision on ratings.

    Does this suck? You betcha. I'm also pretty pissed that Fox cancelled Firefly due to poor ratings. Life goes on.
     
  5. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    You could buy a DBS dish, and subscribe to DirecTV Para Todos.
     
  6. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nobody has the channel yet. The channel will not go on the air until September 7, 2003. So don't start throwing a fit until then. I would expect most digital cable and satelite providers to add the channel.

    So true.
     
  7. Ajax65

    Ajax65 New Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sort of makes the case for the MLS starting a soccer cable channel since none of the networks are going to cover soccer adequately. I only hope that it becomes a reality sooner than later.
     
  8. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    "You could buy a DBS dish, and subscribe to DirecTV Para Todos."

    my friend has that (the cheapest version)

    he gets fsw espanol, galavision (lots of mfl games, if not mistaken they showed champions cup games too) tve (tv spain, but no liga games just cheap lower divisions) and tv azteca too if not mistaken ( i could be wrong)

    plus telemundo, univision
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I guess the Euro-snobs will be forced to give up soccer on ESPN, unless they start watching MLS.
     
  10. RhinosBoy21

    RhinosBoy21 New Member

    Oct 18, 2001
    Rochester NY, but or
    I agree with you. I am 100% Polish, i went to few NT games and been to 100's of Gornik Zabrze matches in sector 13 (supporters section) but i must say alot of Euros in america piss me off when it comes to football. Unless they have to work, or cant afford it or some other good reason that they dont go to matches or watch but i know alot of "Euros" who dont watch MLS becasue its "America". Football is football in Poland, England and United States. I must admit i dont watch many games on ESPN (usually busy on Sat) but i watch a few Metros on FSNY/MSG and i am season ticket holder for Rhinos and i gotta say, American football matches are awsome, not as good as the ones in Poland but just good enough.
     
  11. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    That just sucks. I was really starting to like that show.

    Huh...I wonder if that companion chick is free.
     
  12. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You must be getting a different version of Ollie's site because it doesn't say that. I don't ever recal it saying it would happen, although he hinted it might.

    And even if it does, I'm sure they will all cry in Bristol at losing the 0.1 or 0.2 they got on weekday afternoons.
     
  13. Lucid

    Lucid Member

    May 17, 1999
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yeah, the other networks would actually like that decision because then MLSTV could horde all the s**tty ratings for themselves.

    I love these threads.
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can see it now...

    Headline: SUM Invests $50 Million in Startup Soccer Channel so Bigsoccer Newbie Doesn't Have to Buy a Dish.
     
  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: I can see it now...

    Kenn...I don't understand your hostility here. SUM is, in fact, considering starting a soccer channel.

    And to Lucid...crap ratings for ESPN2 are strong ratings for a niche digital tier cable channel, so your post didn't make any sense to me either.

    These back to back posts from guys I respect are making me wonder if I imagined the news that SUM is planning a soccer channel.
     
  16. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Re: Re: I can see it now...

    They are *considering* it. What that means, I have no idea. My guess is that they are crunching numbers only to find that PPV operators like Setanta are willing to outbid them for the choice leagues (EPL, La Liga, etc.) TV rights.

    The biggest problem with a soccer channel is going to be distribution. There are already litereally hundreds of potential cable channels with broader appeal than a single-sport network that can't get any distribution on cable networks. It may be hard to believe now, but Home & Garden TV (aka porn for women) struggled for years before hitting it big over the past two years. The Tennis Channel already has run into these problems.

    Getting back to ESPN2, all I can say is "good for them." If they think they can make more money showing reruns of the World's Strongest Man, then go for it. That's what a free market is all about.

    Sachin
     
  17. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: I can see it now...

    You didn't. I think Garber said it in one article and I heard it myself from someone connected to the league. So it's not fiction.

    But what I think where some of the sarcasm comes from (I'm just guessing here) is that MLS should do a channel for altruistic reasons and not financial ones.

    I am a big supporter of the concept of MLSTV. But it should be because it provides a revenue source and raises the profile of the league. It should not be simply because other entities don't show soccer.
     
  18. FootyMundo

    FootyMundo New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Minneapolis
    Uh, there's this channel called Fox Sports World. It more than covers soccer adequately. And if you don't have it, you can get it by getting a dish.
     
  19. Gilstar10

    Gilstar10 Red Card

    Oct 12, 2002
    Somewhere out in space
    Oh Yes, I have ESPN for latin america and is the best, you have such a great program as "SImplemente futbol" dedicated to all about football, also have Champion leagues magazine, Spanish La Liga coverage, Western Union World Football program each week ¡It´s great!


    PS
    Comcast Sucks
    and ESPN [/B][/QUOTE]
     
  20. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC

    Or, rightly, those of us who enjoy watching both won't get to see CL. Please don't start a meaningless Eurosnob argument in here, Andy.
     
  21. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As much as this decision sucks, it just means that more and more people or going to have to buy a dish or get digital cable to see the programs that they want, which is the direction most cable systems are moving anyway. We are paying the price for overspeculation and the huge bidding wars for TV rights that characterized the 1990's. Now we will have to pay to watch what we want, which isn't so bad, if you really want it. I don't see it getting any better, but at least ESPN hasn't completely thrown in the towel on major team sports and is now bidding on the World Curling Championships (NBC). We still have the MLS for now.

    Direct TV Para Todos seems like a better buy as time goes by and may soon become a necessary purchase for any devoted fan of leagues outside of the MLS. I hope that ESPN would still consider carrying the semifinals and finals of the Champs League. I'd like to know what the ratings have been for the semis and final, they would certainly outdraw World's Strongest Freaks any day, any time.
     
  22. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can anyone find a link which actually says this is going to happen. Even Ollie doesn't have the speculation on his page anymore.

    Bueller? Bueller?
     
  23. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    Yeah, but it sucks that they never play videos anymore. . .
     
  24. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Harkes: This is the true story

    (cue picture of John lifting MLS Cup)

    Preki: of seven soccer players

    (cue video of a cutback and left-footed shot)

    Albright: Picked to live in a house

    (video of shot going wide)

    Ruiz: Y tenga sus vidas grabadas

    (video of Carlos diving)

    Franchino: To find out what happens when people stop being polite

    (video of Joey clotheslining someone)

    Mathis: And start getting real

    (video of Clint with a Bd Light and a smoke)

    Meola (with a mouth full of donuts): The Real World
     
  25. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia
    I'm big on MLS trying to please us fans that truly care about the game and not always ignore us trying to cater to people who don't give a crap. However, I still understand that the general public needs to have more exposure to MLS and they are needed for this league to succeed. So how would going away from all the cable channels and creating your own soccer channel that only the diehards would buy be helping the league at all except pleasing the true fans who buy it with more games? I personally can't afford to get dish to get these other soccer channels so this situation sort of sucks for me.
     

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