God I hopes so too. Even better is that Jovan Kirovski is going to the Galaxy. A perfect place for him to suck down there. Gibbs would be very helpful on the central defense along with Jolley.
I actually hope that Dallas gets him. Dallas had a poor season and deserves a player of his caliber. On the flip side, since we all know that MLS went out and got this guy EXPECTING him to move along to Dallas, can the DCU fans PLEASE stop hearing about how they have been shafted??? pretty please.
Guys like Gibbs and Kirovski know that being domestic (ie: in the USA) means more callups for the USMNT (b/c Arena can see their form, won't be limited to just short camps before matches, no club conflicts, etc.). It makes sense they'd want to come home. Good for you guys. This is the payoff for finishing last--getting first crack at incoming USMNT players. Since I assume he's coming on a free transfer, than you get double value for the allocation. You not only get Gibbs but you get to reduce his impact on the cap. And you still have another allocation (a major one) when the league formally awards one for the departure of Etcheverry. Anyone want to argue that allocations have limited value now? Getting Gibbs is a real plus. To make this even more juicy for Dallas fans....LA used a draft pick on Gibbs a year ago I believe (with the idea of...what if he decides to come home? Then he'll be OUR property). Except that LA burned a pick for nothing. Granted, it wasn't a high pick but given the rivalry in the West, it's just one more thing for you guys to taunt them about.
Sources have told ESPN.com that both Cory Gibbs and Jovan Kirovski have signed with the league, and will be allocated accordingly. Gibbs, 24, will be going to the Dallas Burn, while Kirovski, 27, will be headed out west to play for the Los Angeles Galaxy. I'll make sure 2 pray extra hard for that tonight w/ the Man upstairs. Errr...Mr. Hunt from his dallas ofc suite overlooking 1601 Elm St. this would solidify the team & propel us to the next level. Suddenly, we're deep in the back w/ vets & young tallent.
If this is happening it makes the deal ok. Only a US national player allocation make sit work. Another SI when we don't have room did nothing for Burn. This is the part that makes it ok. (although this is the YS allocaiton, not the one from DC.)
If Dallas gets Gibbs with the allocation, then I have absolutely no complaints about the Freddy Adu trade. Gibbs for Marshall is an even trade in my eyes.
I've heard that he does have a transfer fee attached, but it's nothing the YS allocation won't cover. I pray that this goes through as Dallas deserves it and will change the backline from rocky to steady.
Excellent pick up for the Burn. Gibbs is solid in the middle, and his NAT days are just beggining. This team needs his bundesliga experience badly.
Gibbs is still young and so I don't see him guaranteeing anything in the back. What he brings is true talent, youth, and some good experience. Add Morrow as a coach and possible mentor, and I'm pretty stoked. Man, I wish we still had Suarez. We could have had the best defense in MLS.
I was thinking that too, Robvii. I can't believe we let Jeffries systematically dump so many good players. Suarez sure would look good on that right side again.
All right, Jam, here is your guy. He must be an impact player. I am convinced the judges I named earlier will see it my way. I think I might have one vote already. Here is a hint. "Not a Gunner? Must suck." I will take that case of Shiner BLONDE anytime, Jam. It is not as if I do not like this move. I do. This is one of the many good things that have been happening in the off season. New coach, some pick ups and signings, good draft, back to the Bowl. Jolley. Talley. Quill. Jason. Oscar. And that is it. Everyone else will be really good in a few years. There is still a talent deficit between the Burn and the rest of the MLS that never seems to close, as the Burn begins to lap even Adunited in the potential race. The Burn has talent at every single position, great talent, talent that nis not yeat ready to compete in the MLS. Honest fans of the other teams will admit that as far as the Burn falls, there is some concern in facing the red and black when the piper finally collects. The Burn has the potential to be the lights out apocolypse team that the opposition just hopes to lose by less than four goals. And there is that word again. Potential. Gibbs will be, I think, a fantastic player for many years. Just not right away. This is still a team well below .500. The only way the Burn will make the playoffs if another team manages a Jeffries like late season collapse. Otherwise, another YSA comes to Dallas. Yippie. We can talk about vetran leadership, but if the Burn is going to do anything this year, one of those young players is going to have to step forward, tkae the other players on his back, and teach them how to fcuking win! Gibbs, make me bring that case of Bass to Jam. Salyer and Gbandi, show me that one year of expereince makes all the difference. ROB, show me that a whole year on the pitch makes all the difference. Davis, let us see you be the midfield general you think you are. EJ, some consistency would be nice. Do it, lads. PROVE ME WRONG!
I don't think we ever discussed us trying to get Ryan back - I thought it was a discussion of what ifs...and some wishful thinking on the part of many of us.
Might our illustrious panel at least do me the honor of watching the new allocation play? I feel quite confident that the new man will make the like of Shavar Thomas, Brian Dunseth, or Matt Behnke look like roadkill. I dare say we'll see an "impact" on the backline with Gibbs and Jolley in central defense. Does that mean we'll win? Not necessarily, as the hole in central midfield is still as big as the hole in central defense was, but we'll certainly be a hell of a lot closer to winning with a competent defense than without it. So not so fast there on the acceptance of that case. I'm still thinking that I'll be the one drinking for free one Saturday night not too far from tonight. Don't count your chickens.
Now if we can get one of those 3 def ctr mids coach was scouting/recruiting in Europe. And, a young T I right back from S.A. !!
Jolley. Talley. Quill. Jason. Oscar. And that is it. Everyone else will be really good in a few years. Why wouldn't Gibbs be able to start and contribute right away? He's played in both the BL1 and 2 and had a very solid showing against a Brazilian side featuring Adriano, Ronaldinho, and Kleberson. Cory should slot in beside Pope on the domestic national team and will form a very stout pair with Jolley for Dallas Assuming (I know, I know) that Elliot and Clarke can get a quality D-mid, Dallas should make the playoffs. The biggest problem will be finding a combination of Kreis, Johnson, and Nhelko that can score goals.
I think you are overblowing the gap between Dallas and the rest of MLS. Chicago, NY/NJ and Columbus all lost impact players. DC and San Jose could follow before the season ends. The huge turn-over on our side will make for some inconsistent soccer early, but I think we have the makings for a solid team by mid-season.
I think this is exactly right. Gibbs is one of the two players you guys needed. The other, as said above is a D mid. You people have been enduring Deering's abysmal play for so long, you've forgotten what it's like to field a team with 11 players. It used to be there was just Armas, so Deering didn't look so sad. The rest of the league now has Joseph, Clark, Mulrooney, Maissoneuve, Nelsen, Vagenas, and Gutierrez - Deering was the weakest player in his position in the league. When you guys upgrade, you will be very pleasantly surprised.
Just a technical matter, and I might be wrong, but isn't this the allocation the Burn got for missing the playoffs? The trade for the first overall pick was actually for "future consideration," but everyone assumes (for good reason) that those future considerations are rights to DC United's next allocation. The point is, I don't think this allocation is directly related to the Adu trade (indirectly related to be sure though), and I think the Burn have a second allocation coming to them.
That is correct. In the list of allocaitons and who gets first pick, the Burn have first dibs form the "You Suck" allocaiton and #5 in order from the DC allocaiton via trade. So IF Gibbs comes he will come via the "You Suck" allocaiton.
That is my understanding as well. However, where the DCU allocation comes in handy is not as a "#5". The Burn got Gibbs b/c they had a worse record than the other interested teams (Metro, etc.). But the YSA is a minor allocation and the one you're supposed to get from Etcheverry is a major allocation. Last year, the major allocation was worth twice the money of the minor. That means you can either pay a much higher transfer fee (and in theory get a much better player). Or, double the amount you take off the cap.
The transfer window closed last night at midnight. One of two things has occurred: 1. The deal is dead, HSG wouldn't pay Gibbs what he demanded (is worth?). 2. The deal is done, and HSG is sitting on it waiting for the Superbowl hype to end and it will be announced tomorrrow so it will get better billing by Belo on Tuesday. One of the two........(fingers crossed)..... -bs