Desigol, the purpose of a message board is to engage discussion. Please try to at least say something besides putting up just links. So I'll bite and be the one who starts discussion on the Hargreaves topic: 1) I think Hargreaves is good at everything he does but he's not great at anything he does. In other words, I think there's a reason why Hargreaves doesn't get capped on a consistent basis for England at the moment. 2) If Hargreaves improves, which he certainly has the capability to do, I doubt Sven would know what to do with him anyway. 3) Owen Hargreaves should have chosen a different national team, one that would really appreciate a "jack-of-all-trades" player (umm... Canada?) 4) All that being said, Hargreaves has a golden opportunity to shine in the defensive midfield tomorrow and impress us all.