PBP: EPL - Manchester United FC vs Arsenal FC - Dec 2, 2021 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    King Sejong Station
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    [​IMG] vs [​IMG]

    Competition: English Premier League
    Venue: Old Trafford
    Time: 20:15 (BST), 15:15 (EST)
    Channels: Amazon Prime Video(UK), MUTV(UK), Peacock?(US), DAZN(Canada), RUSH(JA), SuperSport Máximo 1(Zambia), SuperSport Premier League ROA(Zambia)

    Manchester United injuries: Varane (thigh), Shaw (concussion), Pogba (thigh), Cavani (tendon), Greenwood (QUAR)
    Arsenal injuries: ???

    Manchester United last 6: W-D-L-L-W-D
    Arsenal last 6: W-W-W-W-D-W

    Manchester United league standing: 8th
    Arsenal league standing: 5th

    Manchester United last result: 1-1 away draw with chelsea
    Arsenal last result: 2-0 home win over Newcastle

    Last Encounter: 0-0 away draw at Emirates (Jan 2021)

    Manchester United last starting XI (4-3-3):
    de Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Bailly, Lindelöf, Telles, Matić, Fred, McTominay, Fernandes, Rashford, Sancho

    Arsenal last starting XI (4-3-3):
    Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, White, Magalhães, Tavares, Saka, Partey, Sambi Lokonga, Smith-Rowe, Ødegaard, Aubameyang(c)

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  2. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    King Sejong Station
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    Jamaica
    we've made these guys look a lot better than they are in recent seasons for no good reason.

    go for the win. nothing to fear there
     
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  3. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    United haven't won in their last 6 league games vs Arsenal.

    Didn't realize it had been that long: a dubious record that really needs to end sooner rather than later.
     
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  4. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    Manchester United FC
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    #4 Ashur, Dec 1, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2021

    The team I would go with for this game
    -------------------------Dave
    ----------AWB---Bailly---Lindelof---Telles
    -------------Donny--McTominay--Fred
    ------------Sancho-Ronaldo-Rashford
    Kind of a bummer that Maguire is all but guaranteed to resume his place at the heart of the defense. I'd leave Bruno out of this game as well personally. He continued his poor league form vs Chelsea: there is a comp vid available and it really tells you everything you need to know.
    He has performed better in Europe so far this season, but last time out he was left out vs Villareal, he was effective coming off the bench. I'd like to see more of this from time to time (until he fully recovers his form at least): his current one simply does not warrant him starting every single game..
    And ftr, this is not me turning on Bruno. I fully realize what he's capable of when he's on his game. But it's clear that this season, for whatever reason, he's nowhere near that level. And his production (G/A specifically) is way down as well: only fair then that he's called to task on his form, the way it is for other players in the squad.
     
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  5. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    Lebanon
    Carrick is so boring to watch and offers no insight. To me he sounds a bit resistant to Rangnick almost like he is not embracing him. He won't last long with that attitude. He is not passionate, he is not a thinker, and he is just your average footballer turned coach at best.
     
  6. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think the Rangnick questions are tricky and something he will have been briefed on from the media / legal people.

    Rangnick does not currently have a work permit and as he has only coached in 1 of the last 5 years, his application has to go via an FA exceptions panel.

    It would not be a good look for the club to admit Rangnick is coaching via Carrick when still applying for a work permit - so not currently authorised to either work or coach.

    So he is just stonewalling, probably as directed.
     
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  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    King Sejong Station
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    100%.

    every United interview over the last number of years has been overly sanitised.

    maybe even dating back to the Keane thing
     
  8. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    I'm not convinced Maguire gets back into the team for this one. Why change something when it's not broke? Bailly and Lindelof are a decent pairing. Probably the same eleven. Maybe Cristiano starts over Rashford. Arsenal are not the kind of team to sit back, so we can look to counter.
     
  9. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    Perhaps Carrick will be different and continue with the duo of Bailly and Lindelof which worked so well vs Chelsea. Still seems like a longshot but we can only hope.
    Don't see how we play the same XI, with Matic having played just a few days ago. Not likely to be effective if he starts again tomorrow in my estimation. If Carrick chooses to go with a diamond midfield, I'd sooner see Lingard at the forward tip behind the front 2 ahead of Bruno.
    And I think that sitting back is exactly what we can expect from Arsenal. This team under Arteta puts the emphasis on being solid defensively.​
     
  10. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
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    On second thought, Arsenal probably will go more cautious and we'll look to do the same. I think so long as Matic doesn't play the full 90 he could start.
     
  11. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    Apparently, that would be the squad for today: De Gea, Heaton, Henderson; Bailly, Dalot, Jones, Lindelof, Maguire, Telles; Fernandes, Fred, Mata, McTominay, Van de Beek; Amad, Greenwood, Lingard, Martial, Rashford, Ronaldo, Sancho.

    No AWB or Matic by the looks of it, which means Dalot would get the nod at RB (Bailly perhaps at a push?).
     
  12. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
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    Manchester United FC
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    Lebanon
    Throw Dalot into the wolves. Sink or swim.
     
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  13. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    Saka didn't take part in training yesterday and is said to be a doubt: whoever lines up at RB today could use the break, if he's out. He was one of Arsenal's main offensive threats last time out vs Newcastle.

    Rangnick has arrived.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I agree. ******** it.
     
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  15. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    [​IMG]
    Dave, Dalot, Lindelof, Maguire, Telles, McTominay, Fred, Sancho, Bruno, Rashford, Ronaldo.
     
  16. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    #16 Ashur, Dec 2, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2021
    Gooners XI: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, White, Gabriel, Tavares, Elneny, Partey, Odegaard, Smith-Rowe, Martinelli, Auba.

    Shame that Bailly was dropped, but it was very much expected unfortunately. Martinelli starting for Arsenal is a worry for me: him up front alongside Auba is absolutely why Bailly should have been there for me.
    Better hope that Bruno can step it up as well and we actually see one of his better games today.
    Won't be that surprised if this ends up being a cagey (bordeline boring) game today: that seems to have been the norm between those 2 sides as of late. Need to win though, that much is very clear.
     
  17. SF19

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    I guess Carrick wasn't so different from Ole after all.
     
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  18. Ashur

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  19. MizzouMUFC

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    Sacking Carrick should be the 1st thing Rangnick does. Great midfielder, shit coach.
     
  20. MizzouMUFC

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    If you cant play because you have a bruised hand, then you are a giant pussy. Period.
     
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  22. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    If this were really to be punitive somehow, why start with AWB, when there are more than enough players on the team who have been at least equally and even worse than he's been? Starting with our esteemed captain...

    As far as Dalot and Telles are concerned, I would hope they'll be told that while they must remain mindful of their defensive duties, they're not be overly shy going forward either and do what they do best.
    With a target like Ronaldo in the box, it's something that needs to be taken advantage of, especially when considering their crossing ability.
     
  23. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
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    Lolol
     
  24. Ashur

    Ashur BigSoccer Yellow Card

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    That was careless from Sancho...

    And from the resulting corner, Rash saves a header on the line.
     
  25. MizzouMUFC

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    Awful defending from a set piece. Huge surprise.
     
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